on 26-12-2014 11:04 AM
on 01-01-2015 01:37 PM
you mean like : Piltdown man, Nebraska man, Java Man, Orc Man - and who knows how many more - who were composites / fakes
Banging on about fakes proves nothing and adds nothing to the argument. The Turin shroud has been scientifically shown to be a fake, but I've never heard any atheist use that as proof that Jesus never existed or was never crucified.
on 01-01-2015 01:41 PM
@**bob_on_the_go** wrote:I have never heard of those in science books. Where are you getting your sources from???? If your point is there are Frauds out there, then I agree with you.
Creation Science websites. Like Answers in Genesis, amongst others. Full of misleading, incorrect information and just plain lies.
But then, they have an agenda they need to prop up, don't they?
01-01-2015 02:56 PM - edited 01-01-2015 02:57 PM
@the_great_she_elephant wrote:you mean like : Piltdown man, Nebraska man, Java Man, Orc Man - and who knows how many more - who were composites / fakes
Banging on about fakes proves nothing and adds nothing to the argument. The Turin shroud has been scientifically shown to be a fake, but I've never heard any atheist use that as proof that Jesus never existed or was never crucified.
During the Middle Ages there were enough pieces of the "True Cross" floating around Europe tofill a small forest. Could I use them to argue that there never was a true cross and the crucifiction never happened?
on 01-01-2015 03:22 PM
"The shape of the Asian Afrasia and the North African Afrotarsius fossils suggest these animals probably ate insects.
The size of their teeth hints that in life these animals weighed around 3.5 ounces (100 grams), roughly the size of a modern tarsier."
So, now we know. Our pregenitor was a 3.5 ounce AFrasia.
"It remains an open question how early anthropoids actually migrated from Asia to Africa. Back then, the two continents were separated by a more extensive version of the modern Mediterranean Sea, called the Tethys Sea. Early anthropoids may have either swum from island to island from Asia to Africa, or possibly have been carried on naturally occurring rafts of logs and other material washed out to sea by floods and storms.
Other animal groups apparently migrated from Asia to Africa at this time as well, such as rodents and extinct piglike animals known as anthracotheres, Jaeger said.
After early anthropoids made their way to Africa, those left behind apparently died out in Asia.
Around 34 million years ago, there was a dramatic glacial event that cooled the world climate and affected Asia more than Africa. During that crisis, we suppose that all primitive Asian anthropoids disappeared," Jaeger said.
The anthropoids we see in Asia now, such as gibbons and orangutans, "immigrated from Africa some 20 million years ago," Jaeger said.
Talk about illegal immigrants
- 34 million years ago they migrated from Asia to Africa - no-one knows how. And the ones left behind died out?
- 20 million years ago - they finally got fed up and immigrated back to Asia.
on 01-01-2015 03:29 PM
@the_great_she_elephant wrote:
@the_great_she_elephant wrote:you mean like : Piltdown man, Nebraska man, Java Man, Orc Man - and who knows how many more - who were composites / fakes
Banging on about fakes proves nothing and adds nothing to the argument. The Turin shroud has been scientifically shown to be a fake, but I've never heard any atheist use that as proof that Jesus never existed or was never crucified.
During the Middle Ages there were enough pieces of the "True Cross" floating around Europe tofill a small forest. Could I use them to argue that there never was a true cross and the crucifiction never happened?
Please! You are mistaking me for someone that believes in "True Crosses" and "Turin Shroud" ???? As well as the other codswallop that the Catholics (and others) go on about??
I am not arguing that evolution never happened. I have tried to tell you dozens of times that I fully comprehend the evolution (adaption) among various species. I have even happily agreed that within it's genus (sp) two or more species of the SAME ANIMAL - eg elephants can exist. BUT THAT IS A VERY LONG STRETCH from saying that Man and Ape have a common ancestor.
on 01-01-2015 03:32 PM
so, ele, can you tell me where Bob's "common ancestor of salamanders, dogs and cats?" comes into the picture?
on 01-01-2015 03:35 PM
@cartooncomics wrote:Chimpanzes. A wize American once said it's better to keep your mouth shut & be thought a fool.Rather than open it & be known a fool.
seeing "wise" and "amercan" in the same sentence?
01-01-2015 04:05 PM - edited 01-01-2015 04:08 PM
ETU BRUTE, HAPPY NEW YEAR
on 01-01-2015 04:14 PM
@cartooncomics wrote:A wize American once said it's better to keep your mouth shut & be thought a fool.Rather than open it & be known a fool.
Hardly an American though. There is a biblical proverb that expresses a similar idea, namely Proverbs 17:28. Here is the New International Version followed by the King James Version of this verse: 1
Even a fool is thought wise if he keeps silent, and discerning if he holds his tongue.
Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: and he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding.
on 01-01-2015 04:14 PM
@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:
@the_great_she_elephant wrote:
@the_great_she_elephant wrote:you mean like : Piltdown man, Nebraska man, Java Man, Orc Man - and who knows how many more - who were composites / fakes
Banging on about fakes proves nothing and adds nothing to the argument. The Turin shroud has been scientifically shown to be a fake, but I've never heard any atheist use that as proof that Jesus never existed or was never crucified.
During the Middle Ages there were enough pieces of the "True Cross" floating around Europe tofill a small forest. Could I use them to argue that there never was a true cross and the crucifiction never happened?
Please! You are mistaking me for someone that believes in "True Crosses" and "Turin Shroud" ???? As well as the other codswallop that the Catholics (and others) go on about??
I am not arguing that evolution never happened. I have tried to tell you dozens of times that I fully comprehend the evolution (adaption) among various species. I have even happily agreed that within it's genus (sp) two or more species of the SAME ANIMAL - eg elephants can exist. BUT THAT IS A VERY LONG STRETCH from saying that Man and Ape have a common ancestor.
Evolution simply means change over time. Do you at least accept that. Even creationist accept microevolution. THe only difference between that and macroevolution is add on a few million years. Dogs look so difference in a space of 10, 000 years. Is it that hard to imagine they'll be so different in a million years they'll stop breeding with each other???