on 01-11-2014 01:14 AM
I went to 7-Eleven tonight to get a bite to eat, grabbed a Four'n Twenty pie and gosh it was halal.
Traitors! How can they do this?
I put it back in the warmer then drove to a local Italian restaurant and we had pasta carbonara.
on 03-11-2014 10:46 PM
@jimmy*part3 wrote:If a meat producer has to pay $30,000 a month to become halal certified, is the cost only transfered to the halal meat? Probably not. Besides that cost you'd have to factor in the additional costs of management arranging this, the factory workers, the people boxing it up, right down to the stock boys stocking the shelves. Lots of additional costs.
Maybe if all foods were halal these costs wouldn't be necessary. (no stamp, etc...)
Do the non muslims here NOT object to paying more for their food to satisfy a different religion than yours?
And what if Christians living in the middle east required the same requirements? As in a special non halal stamp that raised the price of foods to the muslims living there. Would THEY object? I think yes. Not only that...there would be some very violent repercussions if they even attempted it.
It has not been established that anyone pays $30,000 a month. I expect it costs less to certify chocolate and vegemite, than meat.
Cadbury have said it costs the consumer nothing extra.
There have been several posts about the RSPCA 's stance on Halal meat.
on 03-11-2014 10:50 PM
It has not been established that anyone pays $30,000 a month.
so where did that figure came from?
on 03-11-2014 11:10 PM
No idea, maybe ask the poster who posted it?
Halal Australia will always endeavor to provide applicants with full details and explanations of the fees and charges involved prior to commencing work. Fees are charged according to each individual client’s needs and will vary depending on the:
The following sections outline the main costs involved in the halal certification process:
INITIAL APPLICATION AND ASSESSMENT
Fees for the initial assessment are fixed as follows:
1. Non-refundable one-off application fee of $110.00 (GST inclusive) for the first site and $55.00 (GST inclusive) for each additional site, regardless of outcome. This fee is payable at the time your application is lodged. Processing will not commence until such payment is received.
2. The application processing fee stated above is separate to the costs for halal accreditation and certification.
INSPECTION
Inspection is a fundamental part of the certification and accreditation process. Inspections not only help us to better understand your company’s unique needs, but also encourage consumer trust and confidence in the integrity of halal certification processes.
Inspections usually occur on a yearly basis, and a standard inspection is normally up to two hours. Inspections are charged according to standard rates (such as ATO guidelines), with travelling expenses charged at cost basis.
ACCREDITATION AND CERTIFICATION
Accreditation refers to the official recognition of a company’s suitability for preparing Halal goods on their premises. A fixed cost applies for the first manufacturing site, with secondary sites charged at a discounted rate. The price of accreditation varies according to the nature of the manufacturing premises, and is included in the quotation provided to your company after assessment. This quotation is normally provided within seven days of receipt of application.
Certification refers to the official recognition of individual products as complying with Halal requirements. Generally, products in low to medium risk categories that have fewer ingredients (up to ten ingredients) are charged at a minimal rate, with fees adjusted accordingly for products in higher risk categories and/or products that have a wider and more complex range of ingredients. Exact certification fees are determined after assessment of the nature of your products, and included in the quotation provided to your company.
In addition to maintaining their current certificate, many companies also prefer to feature our logo on their product packaging. As Halal Australia is internationally recognised in several countries, the Halal Australia logo helps to visibly identify your product as meeting halal requirements to both local and international consumers.
on 03-11-2014 11:49 PM
@*julia*2010 wrote:No, Moslems call God "Allah", most Christians call God "God".
isnt allah arabic for god?
I think you are right, but isn't that what I said?
on 03-11-2014 11:54 PM
Hello, everyone. This discussion is getting a little heated. Could we please communicate with a more civil tone. Thanks!
04-11-2014 12:04 AM - edited 04-11-2014 12:07 AM
@*julia*2010 wrote:
@am*3 wrote:
@*julia*2010 wrote:
@bluemakede wrote:
Re: Four'n Twenty Pies are now halal
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in reply to *lady*godiva*
43 minutes ago
Halal beans? NOPE the beans I get are the Aussie ones not imported from Saudi Arabia
Beansarehaal no matter where grown. All begs and fruit is halalisnt this discussion about halal certified
food? ie prepared according to the koran?
So? The reply is to a post about halal beans? OP claiming he doesn't get Halal beans from Saudi Arabia, he gets non-halal ones from Australia... haha .. bluem has a good point there!
i dont think so. bluem said beans are halal
no matter where grown.
i'm pretty sure OP's objections are about
halal certified food products.
The following is a comment from the OP, (that blue was referring to):
Halal beans? NOPE the beans I get are the Aussie ones not imported from Saudi Arabia
The beans he gets from Aussie are not halal but if the beans come from Saudi Arabia they would be. lol
04-11-2014 12:08 AM - edited 04-11-2014 12:12 AM
@*julia*2010 wrote:It has not been established that anyone pays $30,000 a month.
so where did that figure came from?
From Anti-Muslim, antil halal label propaganda facebook pages, websites, & emails doing the rounds.
Example: Pickering Post ( Pickering who added an additional paragraph - which had religious undertones - on dicksmithfoods public halal certification statement)
Australian manufacturers and importers of food and drink are actually paying Islamic halal certifiers up to $30,000 per month for the honour of displaying this little Arabic sign.
on 04-11-2014 12:13 AM
Example 2:
Boycott Halal in Australia
Millions of dollars a year (up to $30,000 a month per company) are raised by you at the supermarket, with your money feeding through the Islamic network.
on 04-11-2014 12:16 AM
@daydream**believer wrote:bluecat- its actually quite hard to avoid Halal certified foods. More and more companies are paying the monthly fee. Avoiding them is easier when the product displays the logo but there are now many companies paying the fee who dont show the logo
Spring Gully has also announced that they are also Halal certified.
This is the SA companly that 2 yrs ago was on the verge of going broke and did a big campaign tp get Aussies to help them out by buying their products.
12 months ago they became Halal certified which means they are now paying up to $30 000 a month for the Halal certification label (which they actually have chosen not to display on their products anyway)
I am wondering what process a pickled onion needs to go through so that Muslims can eat it?
Halal plastic packaging??
" South Australian company is paying one of many competing Islamic Halal Certification “services” (AFIC) an undisclosed monthly fee for its seal of approval. But Scholle Industries Pty Ltd, based in Elizabeth, is a manufacturer of plastic packaging (plastic is derived from oil) and has apparently been able to assure Muslim fraudsters that all oil wells are facing Mecca."
on 04-11-2014 12:18 AM
@daydream**believer wrote:I boycott Halal foods because i think the whole halal labelling is a scam.
These halal certification committees are telling companies that they either purchase the certification or their products will fail on the export market. They then charge the companies up to $30 000 a month for the certification.
Its a load of rubbish
Where is the money going? I do know it goes into funding Islamic schools (that do already receive Gov funding) and building of Mosques. Does it also fund terrorism? I have no idea but i wouldnt be surprised if it did. We have recently seen footage from within a Mosque of a Muslim youth group chanting about ending democracy in Australia
Recently the chairperson for the Islamic Council WA Halal Certification Committe was arrested for possession of meth with a street value of $8 million and firearms. Is that something the Halal certification money is also going to?
My choice to boycott Halal is my choice. Agree with it or not, makes no difference to me.
And just an extra piece of info, not all products that pay for the Halal certification actually display the logo