Four'n Twenty Pies are now halal

[ufo_investigations]

I went to 7-Eleven tonight to get a bite to eat, grabbed a Four'n Twenty pie and gosh it was halal.

Traitors!  How can they do this?

I put it back in the warmer then drove to a local Italian restaurant and we had pasta carbonara.

[cherry*135]

From the quoted post above:

Recently the chairperson for the Islamic Council WA Halal Certification Committe was arrested for possession of meth with a street value of $8 million and firearms.  Is that something the Halal certification money is also going to?

Spreading incorrect information there. Police charged his brothers Ziad and Rabih Jneid with methamphetamine possession with intent to sell or supply.

Oct 1 2014

WA Islamic Council president Rateb Jneid says he has had his character cleared after being fined and given a spent conviction over inadequate firearms storage.

The $300 fine comes just one day after Mr Jneid met with the Premier to discuss backlash over heightened terrorism tensions.

Mr Jneid was charged following a raid on his family’s Kewdale home in April.

During the search of the home they [police] also found a locked firearms cabinet which was not bolted to the floor or wall.

Mr Jneid attended a police interview confirming the cabinet was his and opened the box to reveal licensed guns and ammunition.

This morning in the Perth Magistrates Court, the prosecution dropped a firearms charge of failing to comply with regulations after Mr Jneid agreed to plead guilty to an inadequate storage charge.

Mr Jneid’s lawyer Shash Nigam told Magistrate Michael Wheeler that his client had organised for a welder to come and secure the cabinet because the family had just moved house, but police searched the home before it could be done.

He said Mr Jneid had responsibly owned guns with a licence since the 1990s and the charges had caused much anguish to him as a respected member of the community.

Mr Jneid is president of the WA Islamic Council and was one of 12 Muslim community leaders asked to meet with Premier Colin Barnett yesterday to discuss racial harassment since a rise in terrorism tension.

Mr Wheeler said he appreciated Mr Jneid had been caught up in “circumstances beyond your control” and that a welder had been organised to secure the cabinet the day after the raids occurred.

“You were not ignoring your responsibility,” Mr Wheel said.

“This is definitely at the lower end of the scale.”

Mr Wheeler said of the April raid it appeared police “were looking principally at others” and while waiting for the welder “police came around in the meantime”.

He fined Mr Jneid $300, ordered him to pay police costs of $150.80 and granted him a spent conviction.

[*lady*godiva*]

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@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:

lady*godiva "The Mother In Law had a heart attack, so I haven't been to bed since I got out about 4 am on Sunday, so.....I'm a bit all over the place".

sorry I didn't ask before - is she OK? Still in hospital I presume? Go and have a sleep - it's not going to do anyone any good if you collapse too.

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Thank you. Yes, she is still in hospital, and she should be just fine. They have now put in a second stent and scraped back some fibrous tissue from another valve and it held, so that's a good thing. They are pretty sure she won't need heart surgery, only if that 3rd valve doesn't hold, but her heart beat is irregular now, but they say that can be fixed once she gets a bit stronger. They said 3 surgeries in 2 days is as much as they want to do at the moment. She is in good hands, as am I. It was just a bit of a shock for her husband and her sons and the husband wasn't handling things very well as it was the first time she has ever been sick like this, but he is sleeping now, and so should be able to handle things a lot better once he has had a good rest. By the time the sun comes up, all of their sons will have arrived, she should be looking better and things will look a lot brighter.

[i-need-a-martini]

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@*lady*godiva* wrote:

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Yes God was called in the Bible YHWH which renders as either Yahweh or Jehovah according to who you listen to.  This name dates right back to creation so as there were no Christians as such in those days, I guess no-one can lay claim to it.

Jesus the name - of course is not really Jesus - that's only the name accepted pronunciation - modern scholars lean towars Yeshua / Jeshua.

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so where does Allah slot into that?

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I always understood that Allah was a derivation of Yewah. Yewah was Hebrew. Allah was Islamic.

[i-need-a-martini]

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@jimmy*part3 wrote:

If a meat producer has to pay $30,000 a month to become halal certified, is the cost only transfered to the halal meat? Probably not. Besides that cost you'd have to factor in the additional costs of management arranging this, the factory workers, the people boxing it up, right down to the stock boys stocking the shelves. Lots of additional costs.

Maybe if all foods were halal these costs wouldn't be necessary. (no stamp, etc...)

Do the non muslims here NOT object to paying more for their food to satisfy a different religion than yours?

And what if Christians living in the middle east required the same requirements? As in a special non halal stamp that raised the price of foods to the muslims living there. Would THEY object? I think yes. Not only that...there would be some very violent repercussions if they even attempted it.

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That $30,000 figure is a furfey. It is taken from an article in one of the right winged newspapers about an Indonesian certifier (apparently - but there is no verification) demanding $30,000 for certification. It got picked up by Pickering and has been doing the rounds on social media ever since.

I have yet to see a price hike in halal food. Not that I see that much of it on the shelves anyway...

[colic2bullsgirlore]

I thought they were only paying 6.5 k or so by AFHS... but the MUI took away their accreditation because they were

undercutting. The MUI decided that it was unfair competition..................

price fixing by a monopoly comes to mind regardless of the actual figures involved..........

I wonder why the ACCC has not had a look at it

...... oooh hold on.... Do you think it's because the "R" word is involved???

..but....

I guess??

if Holy communion bikkies were in high demand the tykes and the prossies could get away with it as well

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/religious-levy-costs-queensland-abattoirs-thousands-ea...

Australian companies that certify meat as Halal, or legal under Islamic law, must be accredited with Indonesia's MUI -

which approves just one certifier per state or territory.

The MUI has suspended Brisbane based Australian Halal Food Services (AHFS) for engaging in "unfair competition''

that could "weaken (the) Halal certification movement".

Certifiers must donate a share of their revenue to mosques and Islamic schools.

AHFS - which refused to comment on Saturday - sponsors the As-Salaam Institute of Islamic Studies, based in Eight Mile Plains. It has also spent funds repairing and maintaining mosques in Rochedale and Rockhampton.

One big Queensland meat processor, which did not want to be identified, claimed it had been quoted $27,000 a month in Halal certification fees through another MUI-endorsed certifier - four times more than AHFS had been charging.

[azureline**]

One big Queensland meat processor, which did not want to be identified, claimed it had been quoted $27,000 a month in Halal certification fees through another MUI-endorsed certifier - four times more than AHFS had been charging.

So, claimed? but didn't want to be named.

so, maybe less than $7000? is the usual? but this is old news isn't it?

[colic2bullsgirlore]

ooohhh red writing

I often directly read 19th century newspapers... because wait for it.. there is much less chance of the news being corrupted

I think the news bit is the fact that

The MUI  suspended Brisbane based Australian Halal Food Services (AHFS) licence for engaging in "unfair competition''

that could "weaken (the) Halal certification movement".

ie they were undercutting (by a mile) what was more "normally" charged.

What other reason can you think of thT a company would arc up at being chargeD 4 odd times what they had previously

been charged??

If that anonymous company could have received the same accreditation for their products for about the same price

then the article would not have benn written....obviously

[azureline**]

is there a problem with coloured text?

(I was agreeing with the content of your post) that may well be where the $30,000 amount came from.

[colic2bullsgirlore]

Yes I am an unabashed colourist.... I protest at the first sign of a rainbow......my world is black and white......

.... those primary suckers are heathen pixels

[*mrgrizz*]

time for the injection of some facts.

the company i work for pays the following.

halal certification....$524 per year.

halal audit( once yearly) $120 per hour. maximum of 6 hours. may take longer.

if we request a halal certificate for a load we are going to export we pay 30 cents per carton......which is equal to 1.5 cents per kilo.

we do not need a halal certificate for meat sold domestically.