Germaine Greer

[newstart2380]

Have just been listening to an interview on ABC 24 and she called Juliar Gillard an organ grinders monkey the way she dressed. Here was this wrinkled stick with a head of hair that looked like she had put her hand in the power socket critisizing how another person looked. I personally have never admired this loud, overbearing feminist.

[amber-eyed-girl]

I have read it here.

I have seen it. At the time, I thought it was a mistake to say it.

that gg was an intelligent enough person to see how it would look. The organ grinder's monkey is new for me (post 87 for you). It just confirms my opinion.

[the_great_she_elephant]

---

@poddster wrote:

I reiterate

What I have observed in many feminists is that in championing the equality for women they neglect to acknowledge the difference between the genders, men are attracted by those differences and not by watered down attributes akin to their own.

Most men are not attracted to affiliate men, and that tis the direction that rabid feminism is directing women.

"Be a man but not quite"

---

Poddy, I hate to shatter your illusions, but the majority of women do not structuture their lifestyles around what will  make them most attractive to men.

[**meep**]

OK. Cool.  I just saw comments earlier in reply to yours about the context.

[newstart2380]

---

@freddie*rooster wrote:

Polks, i'm sorry I disappoint you, but I guess at times our opinions may differ on some subjects. I said the same thing on here about her comments soon after that particular Q&A, and if I recall correctly the vast majority of posters who commented were of the same opinion, she was rude, and her comments were uncalled for.

---

In a nutshell, no need for further comment.

[amber-eyed-girl]

🙂

[the_great_she_elephant]

Whatever she meant by what she said, it stands that she said it.

open to misinterpretation or otherwise.

gg has no right to tell jg or any other woman how she should dress, whatever the reason.

my point being that it is incredibly rude for her to say anything about anyone else's shape, and she should have realised how hurtful such a comment could be.

A clear case of: "I know what I meant to say, and if I didnt make my meaning clear enuogh, that's your problem, not mine.

Or to put it another way,

"I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant".

[poddster]

Is it any wonder then that lifelong relationships are diminishing at a more and more rapid rate.

Do not misconstrue what I am about to say bit read the words instead of assuming to know what is meant by them.

if the mutual attraction between the genders is diminished mutual respect will be a casualty.

Mutual respect is the solid foundation on which successful relationships are constructed , without a solid foundation relationships will crumble and fall.

Around 40% of marriages fail and that is marriages, you know the ones that took the commitment in the first place.

I would hazard a guess that among those who have not taken the marriage commitment it if much higher than 40%.

I am not saying that feminisn is the cause for that percentage but the rate has certainly increased since Greer got into the act.

There are a lot who will say that Greer did a lot of good and perhaps so but Greer also did a lot of harm to the children of the increased percentage of marriage and partnership breakdown.

There are no less and less numbers of couples who are prepared to take the commitment of marriage yet the newborn population has not decreased. What of those unwed mothers with a child or children? And the children of unwed  and unpartnered parents?

[freakiness]

Germaine Greer and other feminists do not advocate for the diminishment of mutual attraction between genders.

[the_great_she_elephant]

Poddy wrote: 

I am not saying that feminisn is the cause for that percentage but the rate has certainly increased since Greer got into the act.

There are a lot who will say that Greer did a lot of good and perhaps so but Greer also did a lot of harm to the children of the increased percentage of marriage and partnership breakdown.

Can you be more specific, Poddy. What exactly did Germaine Greer write or advocate that led women to abandon their marriages?

[freshwater-2]

Yes Poddy, reading The Female Eunuch  women finally realised that they could be self sufficient and self supporting, instead of remaining in a bad relationship.

That women could be more than they were.

They didn't need to follow the expectations of the day.....marriage and 3 children with a triple front red brick house.

Until Greer came along the wimmen folk kept they place.

She was a trail blazer for the free choice for women.

I have never heard her criticise women for choosing marriage, children and the brick house.

She was all about choice.

I don't understand your comments about femininity and her wanting to be a man.

Maybe her monumental intellect put you off.

She is her own woman....always has been.

I celebrate what she has achieved in her life.

I asked my OH what he thought of her (he was at Uni with her).

He adores her.....maybr because he doesn't feel threatened by her as so many 'men' are.