Happy Australia? Invasion? Survival? day all :)

[lobs211]

I always fail at trying to talk about Indigenous stuff cos it always turns nasty - still not sure why that is...............

Anyway my little family making plans to celebrate Survival Day - yeah yeah SURVIVAL DAY - we celebrate we survied & are here but more importantly culture has survived, besides best efforts to kill it and us off

Now before the usual lot carry on and all the same old "get over it" blah blah blah - I wonder if you would consider something? Just think about this for a minute then on u go with ur day 🙂

Just imagine that when the japanese were bombing Aust, just imagine if they took over Aust, say Feb 9th 1942. Just imagine that for a minute. Japanese ppl all moved into your houses, you could ONLY speak japanese etc ect, not even gonna talk about killing babies, taking women, stealing children - just imagine they took over. And you are NOT happy about it 😞

Would you celebrate Feb 9th? They tell you its the day the country was made great, the best day, the day you will celebrate EVERY year? Would you do it??

Hmmmm?

We do celebrate it, I choose not to call it Invasion Day, I choose to call it Survival Day and we will celebrate it.

We are back out bush until the 27th so HAPPY Jan 26th - whatever you wanna call it, stay safe everyone and I can come back in here tonight and when in town - haters gonna hate but it would be cool to have a conversation without the **bleep**??

[**meep**]

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@izabsmiling wrote:

I don't understand why people come out with comments like

how long are we supposed to go back and that when Indigenous People of this Country speak others think that in the process of allowing them to speak about their Country and their History that they are blaming people or expect you to feel blame or shame ?

Why do people do that ? is it kind of uncomfortable to hear the history which the Indigenous people lived ? 

If so.......... tough

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Oh that, thank you.   No, I don't find it inconvenient at all to talk about it, that is why I am here, discussing it.   It is important to Remember.  We must Remember.   And if you will allow me to express my view, i see Remembering being connected with a lot of blame.  It does not need to be unless there is still the belief that something is unresolved. 

Nowhere did I say that I felt I was to blame, so please, stop implying it.

My initial  comment was also in response to Monman.  If that is OK.

We can have a civil discussion about this, you know...

[izabsmiling]

Meep,

this from your post 

'Hasn't every country at some point been conquered/colonised?  How far back is far enough to stop the blame?'

[poddster]

Is this how feuds start and continue for centuries?

[**meep**]

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@nevynreally wrote:

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@**meep** wrote:

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I agree,  I've always thought of Australia Day as a day to celebrate being here, no matter how or when that happened. Not sure about changing it, what date would be suitable to all? The 26th of January is the day this country changed forever, the good, the bad, the really ugly, but here we all are.

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I'm not sure.  There were suggestions on another similar thread......I can't recall......

Celebrating Invasion Day does not seem right and that's what it means to a lot of Australians, it seems.

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No, it doesn't seem right. Kind of glass have empty. Which is kind of sad. Could there ever be a right day?

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I think someone suggested January 1 - Federation Day ??

[**meep**]

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@izabsmiling wrote:

Meep,

this from your post 

'Hasn't every country at some point been conquered/colonised?  How far back is far enough to stop the blame?'

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Yes, see post 52 for clarification.

[imastawka]

January 1 Federation Day.

Too many hangovers

[cherry*135]

January 1 is New Years Day..already a Public Holiday.

nevyn:  Could there ever be a right day?

Probably not.

[**meep**]

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@imastawka wrote:

January 1 Federation Day.

Too many hangovers

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yeah......plus we need the extra Public Holiday.....

January 2 ??

[cherry*135]

Probably to hard to organise big events for Australia day, that close to NYE.

[nevynreally]

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@am*3 wrote:

January 1 is New Years Day..already a Public Holiday.

nevyn:  Could there ever be a right day?

Probably not.

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Well that's rather disheartening. 

Perhaps we could keep Australia Day to celebrate being Australians, and add an Acknowledgement Day (or whatever they wish for) for the Indigenous population? I know that doesn't change the "invasion" day meaning, but perhaps it could put a different focus on what the days mean?

Or are we not discussing this issue rationally?