Have you met any Refugee's

[margomeoz]

If so have you became friends with them?

[the_great_she_elephant]

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@polksaladallie wrote:

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

Then if, as Polocrosse maintains, some refugees are constantly in the news for violent and other crimes, how effective is the screening process. And let's not forget Ronnie Biggs (part of a gang who bashed a train guard so badly he later died of his injuries) spent quite a few years in Australia under a false name.

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Biggs was part of the gang, but he was a minor player and did not bash anyone.

He was an immigrant, not a refugee.

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He was part of a gang that bashed someone; and he managed to slip through the screening process for migrants. Are we to assume it is a less rigorous process than that applied to refugees - because if it is then I suspect we are in more danger from authorised migrants than from refugees.

[the_great_she_elephant]

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@donnashuggy wrote:

I hope you aren't holding up the traffic in Western Sydney she el 🙂

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Only in the mating season, Donna.

[icyfroth]

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@freakiness wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@freakiness wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:

Refugees have been known to destroyed and / or have  falsfied documents.

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Do you mean like this man, Dr Munjed Al Muderis?

http://www.sah.org.au/assets/files/PDFs/Events%20and%20News/2013%20PDFs/Women's%20Weekly%20Nov%20201...

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Did he destroy / falsify documents? Lose them?

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Yes. His mother destroyed his documents to increase his chances of escape and got false docs for him. 

He went on to become on of our top surgeons after Ruddock said he would have no chance or pursuing his medical career in Australia.  

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That worked out alright then didn't it? So you think every refugee that comes here has the potential of becoming a bionic surgeon?

It just proves that many many refugees come here with falsified documents, so a screening process by the dept immigration would not reveal any potential troublemakers or rocket scientists. It's a case of wait and see, which is not always a happy ending as in your example.

[***super_nova***]

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

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He was part of a gang that bashed someone; and he managed to slip through the screening process for migrants. Are we to assume it is a less rigorous process than that applied to refugees - because if it is then I suspect we are in more danger from authorised migrants than from refugees.

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...and those coming from UK, USA or NZ, who would receive the least scrutiny.

[icyfroth]

I imagine the dept of immigration is overwhelmed by the sheer number of undocumented people coming into the country.

[polksaladallie]

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

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He was part of a gang that bashed someone; and he managed to slip through the screening process for migrants. Are we to assume it is a less rigorous process than that applied to refugees - because if it is then I suspect we are in more danger from authorised migrants than from refugees.

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He was wanted for robbery, not for bashing.  He and his family used another name, as did many others I would think.  He would not get through now.

[**meep**]

Are we to assume it is a less rigorous process than that applied to refugees

If it is the same process that I have had to go through then no. Reading the info on the immi website, it looks like extra requirements have been added.

[**meep**]

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@***super_nova*** wrote:

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

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He was part of a gang that bashed someone; and he managed to slip through the screening process for migrants. Are we to assume it is a less rigorous process than that applied to refugees - because if it is then I suspect we are in more danger from authorised migrants than from refugees.

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...and those coming from UK, USA or NZ, who would receive the least scrutiny.

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Why is that?   What is the screening process for those who wish to emigrate from the US and how does it differ from applicants from other countries?  Can you give me examples?

[cherry*135]

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

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@am*3 wrote:

Ronnie Biggs died December 18, 2013.. strange to read about him on a thread about have you made any friends with people who were refugee's.

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Well, I guess he was a refugee of sorts - a refugee from the law.

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That he was.

[cherry*135]

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@**meep** wrote:

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@***super_nova*** wrote:

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

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He was part of a gang that bashed someone; and he managed to slip through the screening process for migrants. Are we to assume it is a less rigorous process than that applied to refugees - because if it is then I suspect we are in more danger from authorised migrants than from refugees.

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...and those coming from UK, USA or NZ, who would receive the least scrutiny.

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Why is that?   What is the screening process for those who wish to emigrate from the US and how does it differ from applicants from other countries?  Can you give me examples?

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No passports were required between NZ and Australia for many years. Don't remember how that worked if someone, for example, flew from England, stayed a week in NZ and then flew onto Australia. For NZ citizens, we just got on the plane.

People used to get drugs into Aust easier that way.. Asia to NZ - NZ to Aust in those days.