on โ05-11-2014 09:14 AM
on โ05-11-2014 11:29 AM
NSW and QLD have banned jumps racing leaving Victoria as one of the last remaining states to allow this cruel activity to continue.
Tell the government this cruelty must end.
on โ05-11-2014 11:32 AM
@am*3 wrote:
Humans are pretty disgusting as well.. Litter left.
Melbourne Cup 2014: the clean-up begins
http://www.theage.com.au/sport/horseracing/melbourne-cup-2014-the-cleanup-begins-20141104-11gvog.htm...
That is an awful sight in the article.
However, I didn't notice any rubbish bins for rubbish to be placed.
Were they removed due to "terrorism" threats, similar to bins at trains stations, etc.
DEB
PS..... Looked at some of the smaller photos under the article and saw a couple of overflowing wheelies. Maybe the cleaning contractors prefer to separate the glass/plastic/food scraps/lost shoes, etc from the ground.
on โ05-11-2014 11:35 AM
I spent a lot of time (not as a punter) at both Doomben Racecource and Albion Paceway. I have also had contact with many horses used for work on working cattle properties.
I don't know how every work horse is treated, only those on the properties with which I am/was associated, and I only know how I saw the racehorses and trotters treated and the stories of the horses in those stables, that patronised those two venues.
I can also recall the then racing minister, in a room of about 1000 people watching a live trotting race and yelling out for the jockey to "whip the bast*** harder" and other such comments. His comment wasn't isolated, many in that room were quite vocal then and on many other occasions (every Wednesday and Saturday night). His just stands out because of who he was.
on โ05-11-2014 11:38 AM
@*lady*godiva* wrote:
@icyfroth wrote:
@**bob_on_the_go** wrote:Making animal suffer and die for the purpose of human entertainment. Stupid heh.
I'm inclined to agree.
But the racehorses are treated very well in comparison to working horses or horses that have been bought for recreation and abandoned in a paddock once they were of no longer use.
May I ask from where you draw that conclusion?
The racehorses in general are generally treated like royalty. Fed well, groomed, exercised regularly.
Of course in the case of that poor horse that died in the Melbourne Cup race either of heart failure or ruptured blood vessel, sounds like it was run to death.
The one that had to be put down was done so humanely.
Of course we don't know what goes on behind the scenes.
A working horse (farm animal) can be horribly mistreated for it's working life if they are unfortunate in their owners.
Horses bought for a child's pleasure can become abandoned in an enclosure and waste away unloved and uncared for once the child loses interest.
I draw these examples from what I've heard, seen and read.
I have no first hand experience.
on โ05-11-2014 11:38 AM
@bushies.girl wrote:A few are saved but 100's of greyhounds are pts each yr ..... many racehorses are destroyed.Who cares if it's simple or not, it can be done
.... Victoria and SA are the only states in Aust that permit jumps racing, all the other stated have banned it .... Vic is the only state that still permits duck shooting for sport .....
It CAN be done!
It's far deeper than that. Its the training and conditions endured during their racing life. At least once they are put to sleep, they don't have to endure any of that any more.
on โ05-11-2014 11:45 AM
โ05-11-2014 11:46 AM - edited โ05-11-2014 11:47 AM
I doubt horse racing will be outlawed. (not referring to jumps, I think we will see that gone in the future)
So changes need to happen and I suggest no human interference in pushing the horse when it is racing.
No crops, no heels, no verbals, no slapping of reigns etc. The horse must run as it feels.
Let the horses run the race they want, they will slow if they don't feel well.
That will in effect perhaps see the true well bred horses, IMO.
on โ05-11-2014 11:46 AM
@lloydslights wrote:One aspect I find worrying about horse racing is that the "trackwork" is conducted in the cool morning air, and the actual races are in the hotter part of the day.
Not only confined to the performance on the track but the "sire-ing and dam-ing" duties in their retirement is controlled "bridled passion".
They have become Beasts of Burden for the economy.
The hats, the fashion, the shoes, the transport, the alcohol, the makeup, So much "invested" Australia-wide for just this one day alone! And all those people employed within the racing industry. And even the construction industry with the grandstands. The gardeners and plant nurseries, too.
All the taxes from each aspect to the government (whichever is in power at the time) !
DEB
I knew the head groundsman of Doomben raceway for 25 years (well that's how long that was their job)
He lived on the grounds at Doomben. He was built a massive house of his design, complete with stained glass widows. He oversaw all the maintenance and gardens of the entire place, including the track conditions etc, and he had to open the gates for the jockeys and trainers every morning, meet with the owners to ensure they were happy with their stables on site etc.
They grew their own flowers on site.
Employed their own gardeners etc too - and the gardners would always bring fresh flowers up to the house every few days - all payed for by someone - but it wasn't the person I know, whoever owns/runs/is responsible for Doomben Raceway, I guess.
They also had all of this beautiful antique furniture found in storage on the race course somewhere and workers refurbished all of that too, for use in the residence. It was like they had a fully staffed manor - all paid for by someone else.
โ05-11-2014 11:47 AM - edited โ05-11-2014 11:49 AM
My youngest daughter worked as a strapper, so I have a fair idea of how they are treated, some of it is not pretty
on โ05-11-2014 11:50 AM
@am*3 wrote:
Killed because of the training they were doing (e.g. over exertion) rather than died from natural causes.
Would the (125) horses have died that day if they were left in their stall?
or romping in a field, or not have been born at all because race horses are generally bred on purpose for the purpose of racing them, I don't think many become race horses by accident. because they just wandered onto a track one day whilst chasing butterflies....