on 30-12-2014 09:05 PM
on 31-12-2014 12:12 PM
imo that man should've been gaoled for what he did to his wife and for writing the letters, he was certainly ""öut there"" it looked like he was even preaching his hatred in the streets. alarm bells should've been ringing long ago on that one
why wasn't ASIO watching him I wonder? especially during the past 12 months when we were supposed to be on hightened alert?
and why didn't he get done on rorting the welfare system, cross checks would've picked that up surely?
31-12-2014 12:14 PM - edited 31-12-2014 12:14 PM
yers I know what the white paper is, can you find me the ones from 2013 and 2014 which are the relevent ones
one is under labor and one is under liberal
thanks
on 31-12-2014 12:16 PM - last edited on 31-12-2014 01:57 PM by luna-2304
@debra9275 wrote:
@aps1080 wrote:
Are you happy financing terrorists via your tax?
The left are always happy to support those who are anti Australian, working against our society and
generally PITA who should be deported.
what a typical thing to say/think..... this is why I sort of fear the hard right wing
Debra
The words I used were actually said (or close to) about Sarah Hanson Young, The bit I left out was that she would have been considered a traitor not that long ago.
WHY should we support those who are anit Australia and working against our society ????????
Why should our taxes support them ?
Fear the hard right wing. You have nothing to fear what so ever. Others who might want to start chopping heads off
might have something to fear IF the Gov't doesn't do something about taking them down, permanently.
Maggie thatcher had it right - "No terrorist will leave the UK alive" - none did although one survived
and spent 27 years in jail !
on 31-12-2014 12:25 PM
@debra9275 wrote:it's my opinion that some muslims are bad, but not all
some people on welfare are rorting the system, but not all
lests just wait and see how they handle this in 2015
The percentage of welfare recipients "rorting the system" is around 6%. While I haven't seen any recent figures, I would think they have not changed greatly.
Nothing Morrison does is going to change that core group, but it will cause distress and harm to the genuine poor.
on 31-12-2014 12:27 PM
its OK I found the White Papers
http://www.defence.gov.au/whitepaper/2013/docs/WP_2013_web.pdf
labor 2013 section 3.3
on 31-12-2014 12:30 PM
@donnashuggy wrote:
@icyfroth wrote:How about an example of the FEAR and SCARE tactics so this dumb blonde right-leaning person can understand what your'e on about?
Just take a glance at the front pages of the telegraph, or listen to Alan Jones etc. The abbott government is using scare tactics in regards to muslims and the fear of an attack of some kind.
Really? Thats how you see it? I personally think the Gov are **bleep** footing around the whole terrorists in Australia issue.
on 31-12-2014 12:32 PM
Debra
All you have to do is type into Google
Defence White Paper 20xx and it will list the years.
I think the previous one to 2013 was 2009.
You have to remember that sometimes, you have to jump on an opportunity or a decision needs to be made
or you miss out. The Extra C-17's we (Australia) purchased was because Boeing said they were shutting down
the production line and were making 10 more "clean skins" (ie NOT laready purchased by a country) that once sold
could not be replaced. It was an opportuntiy too good to miss and credit where credit is due, I am glad Labor didn't
baulk at buying some.
The other apsect is, we have an almost unique relationship with the US (Israel and the UK would be up there)
where their is pretty much no restrictions on what military technology they will sell us if we ask. Why not capitalise
on the huge defence industry they have and also the fact that we operate with them all the time which is especially
important in today's battlespace with things like Link 16 where data can be shared very quickly.
Here is 2013 white paper.
http://www.defence.gov.au/whitepaper/2013/docs/WP_2013_web.pdf
on 31-12-2014 12:40 PM
I made a mistake re the numbers of Super Hornets.
We put in a request to purchase (2012) to order 12 more F models and 12 G models (Growlers - Electronic warfare model)
In the end, the Australian Gov't decided to buy 24 F models and will order the 12 G models later - I believe some
of the F models are WIRED FOR but not capable of G model EW (Electronic Warfare).
on 31-12-2014 12:45 PM
If you don't like it hear, eff off to somewhere which suits how you want to live.
The same applies to you.
on 31-12-2014 12:49 PM