on 20-10-2020 11:11 PM
29-10-2020 03:05 PM - edited 29-10-2020 03:07 PM
@lionrose.7 wrote:We cant under stand Infinity or Eternity because every thing in our lives has a beginning and a end,
Night, Day
Life, Death
The thought of eternity used to do my head in.
If there was no such thing as eternity, & just nothingness, how could that be?
But, I doubt humans as a species will ever fully understand it, as we're only running on limited dimensions.
on 29-10-2020 03:25 PM
Infinity is - forever.
It's only a word to describe - no ending - such as PI - which mathematically goes on forever.
God - Universe - all the inexplicable.
Not so sure it has much to do with - humankind.
on 29-10-2020 04:02 PM
Used to drive me crazy when I was younger, till I thought we are not able to under stand how some thing could go on for ever and be nothing LOL.
Maybe just universe after universe with some planets that that have life on them
on 31-10-2020 01:52 AM
Welll, if we were on a rocket going faster than the concept of speed is, how long would it take us to get to where nothingness is? Surely the planets and stars would run out and we would be in a "nowhere", or would we?. God may know that answer. Films like The Thirteenth Floor and 2001: A Space Odyssey obviously have this issue presented in the story.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0139809/mediaviewer/rm2721200640
on 31-10-2020 07:34 AM
@4channel wrote:Welll, if we were on a rocket going faster than the concept of speed is, how long would it take us to get to where nothingness is? Surely the planets and stars would run out and we would be in a "nowhere", or would we?. God may know that answer. Films like The Thirteenth Floor and 2001: A Space Odyssey obviously have this issue presented in the story.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0139809/mediaviewer/rm2721200640
Where "nothingness" is? Nothing is something. We have never seen a "nothing"
Space is not nothing.
The concept of God creating the universe from nothing is incoherent. He has to first create nothing. And if God is something, she can't just come from nothing.
on 31-10-2020 10:36 AM
@the_bob_delusion wrote:
Where "nothingness" is? Nothing is something. We have never seen a "nothing"
Space is not nothing.
The concept of God creating the universe from nothing is incoherent. He has to first create nothing. And if God is something, she can't just come from nothing.
Very good point. As I said earlier, who created the higher being? That is, God. Did she sit there bored witless for a gazillion years and then think, pow, I'll create a universe? I'll put in millions and millions of galaxies and planets, and only inhabit one of them, that being what we know as earth.
I have always had an interest in space and astronomy. I have spent time in the city, looking at important business people going about their day, where their life revolves around high rise office buildings and long commutes to and from work. I wonder if they have ever given ANY thought as to what is past the blue sky that we see? I'm guessing some might, but most wouldn't.
I was raised as a Catholic. Definitely not one now! I remember as a kid, a boy in my brother's class died of Leukemia. That afternoon, I saw what I now know as sunbeams, dripping from the sky. I was so convinced that was God taking him to heaven. After that, every time I saw them, I thought someone was being taken to heaven.
If God is outside the universe, then it could take a trillion trillion years to get to heaven, possibly a trillion times more than that. Even if everyone did make it, it would be awfully crowded up there. I would rather walk the earth and spook people.
It makes absolutely no sense that there is a higher being that created something from nothing. You can't create nothing from something.
on 31-10-2020 10:49 AM
*tippy*toes*, I can appreciate what you say and going with what the human concept of things is, i'd agree. however, our idea of beginning and end and nothing and something is just our own. There's a whole different dimension of thinking that we as humans haven't even able to even come close to tapping into.
on 31-10-2020 03:10 PM
@4channel wrote:*tippy*toes*, I can appreciate what you say and going with what the human concept of things is, i'd agree. however, our idea of beginning and end and nothing and something is just our own. There's a whole different dimension of thinking that we as humans haven't even able to even come close to tapping into.
The problem is tho, the first words in the Bible are, "In the beginning". The Bible was written by humans supposedly guided by the words of God. One therefore must accept the word of God and accept there was a beginning. No super dimensional thinking is required to understand there was a beginning if the person believes in God. But if the word of God is true then we paltry humans certainly have the right to ponder on the question of how He fits in with the beginning. After all, He chose to tell us, but perhaps neglected to give us an intelligence that would allow us to comprehend what his words meant?
on 31-10-2020 04:39 PM
I have a lost of people to haunt and shift things around their house LOL
I also have a list of people to protect 🙂
on 01-11-2020 12:11 AM
@not_for_sale2025 wrote:
@4channel wrote:*tippy*toes*, I can appreciate what you say and going with what the human concept of things is, i'd agree. however, our idea of beginning and end and nothing and something is just our own. There's a whole different dimension of thinking that we as humans haven't even able to even come close to tapping into.
The problem is tho, the first words in the Bible are, "In the beginning". The Bible was written by humans supposedly guided by the words of God. One therefore must accept the word of God and accept there was a beginning. No super dimensional thinking is required to understand there was a beginning if the person believes in God. But if the word of God is true then we paltry humans certainly have the right to ponder on the question of how He fits in with the beginning. After all, He chose to tell us, but perhaps neglected to give us an intelligence that would allow us to comprehend what his words meant?
The Bible was written by humans. I doubt they were guided by god.
Just one example is the Flood, lifted entirely from the Epic of Gilgamesh, a Sumerian myth that predates Judaism, much less Christianity.
The Bible was written well after the events it allegedly portrays. For example Adam and Eve had two sons. How did they continue the species, given that homosexuality is not known to be biologically fruitful and homosexuality is banned by the same god that allegedly told people they could have been the only continuers of the species?
There are many more holes in the Judaic myth, but these should be enough to get thinking people thinking.