on 13-07-2013 08:59 AM
Where are they? all the Labor supporters on here? I haven't heard a peep, not a whimper about the sweeping changes Rudd wants to make to the democracy of the parliament.
Is it the same as the cowardly cringing that went on, the sickening acquiescence to the crushing discrimination laws Roxon wanted or the attack on the freedom of the press & curtailing of our freedom of speech Conroy wanted that all the luvvies supported.
To their shame they supported them & then not a word when the hammer finally dropped on these 2 bills & Labor abandoned them.
Where are the screams & howls of protest at what Rudd wants to do, where are the true believers who believe in the power of their collective strength & the rights of the rank & file? to ensconce himself into the leadership that the party may never be able to move him from unless they cross the floor en masse & bring him & any future leaders down on the floor of the Parliament their only option?.
Is this the price Labor are willing to pay to win just 1 election, is this the high price to our democratic parliamentary values they are willing to abrogate just to cling onto one more term?
Are all Labor supporters on here going to sit quiet & say nothing about this. Where's the outrage about this abomination or is just whinging about perceived sexism all they're good for these days or pathetic nit picking.
"Excerpt from main article:
Added to this short-term, deeply political decision-making is the undeniable enjoyment Rudd would get in watching colleagues vote for a change of party rules that effectively amounted to a repudiation of their collective action in ousting him back in 2010. One final kick in the teeth for Gillard and the so-called faceless men, as it were.
This reform also puts the Labor Party at the potential mercy of an individual leader (ironic for the party of the collective workers), and it even increases the likelihood of a party split at some time in the future. For example, if one major faction within the Labor Party continued to support a PM it would be highly unlikely that the remainder of the party would be able to collectively achieve the 75 per cent quota required to oust the leader.
This is just one of a raft of unintended consequences Labor is exposing itself to
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Theoretically the reform Rudd wants his caucus to endorse means voters could keep on re-electing a leader of the Labor Party who enjoyed the support of only one-quarter of its parliamentary team, even though that same leader pursued policies totally at odds with the brand of the party they led."
on 13-07-2013 05:38 PM
@i-need-a-martini wrote:Well that is intelligent - vote in a government with absolutely no policies just because you have had a gut full of the present.
OK. *eye roll*
And perhaps Rudd "only got in" because he has always been the preferred Prime Minister? Don't think anyone would ever have any sympathy for Rudd - it doesn't suit him lol.
As you are so fond of singing from the same songbook that labor uses here's a look at the policies that the Liberal/nationals have put out for all to see.
Your mantra that they have no policies is a lie, a total lie & a lie that is continuously spouted by you & your ilk. Take a look, read the policies & then come back with the same tired old "they have no policies" lie, we know that is the catchword of Labor, what they are told to say every day.
If it's a lie, does saying it time & time again somehow make it the truth? NO it doesn't.
Gillard was punished for lying, Rudd won't say anything because he's too scared to, he doesn't want to fail like she did, he won't utter a lie but he won't utter the truth either.
http://www.liberal.org.au/real-solutions
on 13-07-2013 06:00 PM
on 13-07-2013 06:09 PM
on 13-07-2013 06:21 PM
Oh come on. Even Malcolm was embarassed to call that glossy brochure a policy statement the other night
on 13-07-2013 06:38 PM
Care to take a wager on Krudd winning?
Lets make the stakes worthwhile shall we Kazza
If Krudd and Labor win I will quit CS for 6 months.
If he does not then you quit CS for 6 months.
Some would say that that would be a win/win situation for CS posters
on 13-07-2013 06:44 PM
Oh gosh the ALP are suffering from anoxia, it has been announced that their Federal Executive will allow rank and file candidate choice. but they obviously took a deep breath and decided not to be really sensible:
"The national executive also ruled to remove any obstacles for eligibility for Joanne Ryan, Lisa Clutterham and Julie Ann Evans to contest the preselection in Lalor." Obstacles? AKA rules.
Obviously oxyygen deprivation , as Kitching, and Clutterham have both announced they will not now nominate for Lalor.
Clutterham had heard of Melbourne but couldn't find it, whilst faced with the prospect of Ms Kitching becoming a candidate for Lalor, several senior Labor figures said it would be a bad look. ''Why would we want to run anyone associated with the HSU"
Rules, what rules?
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on 13-07-2013 06:45 PM
on 13-07-2013 06:47 PM
Be aware Fredrick that any insinuation or innuendo to me having dual IDs or NARU status will be reported to Trust and Safety as a violation against the security of my account. I made that quite clear not long ago. So may i suggest thatt you retract your statement, If you do not you will be reported.
13-07-2013 06:49 PM - edited 13-07-2013 06:49 PM
I didn't think you would Kazza.
on 13-07-2013 06:52 PM