Labor should revolt, where are they? where's the outrage for this?

[silverfaun]

Where are they? all the Labor supporters on here? I haven't heard a peep, not a whimper about the sweeping changes Rudd wants to make to the democracy of the parliament.

Is it the same as the cowardly cringing that went on, the sickening acquiescence to the crushing discrimination laws Roxon wanted or the attack on the freedom of the press & curtailing of our freedom of speech Conroy wanted that all the luvvies supported.

To their shame they supported them & then not a word when the hammer finally dropped on these 2 bills & Labor abandoned them.

Where are the screams & howls of protest at what Rudd wants to do, where are the true believers who believe in the power of their collective strength & the rights of the rank & file? to ensconce himself into the leadership that the party may never be able to move him from unless they cross the floor en masse & bring him & any future leaders down on the floor of the Parliament their only option?.

Is this the price Labor are willing to pay to win just 1 election, is this the high price to our democratic parliamentary values they are willing to abrogate just to cling onto one more term?

Are all Labor supporters on here going to sit quiet & say nothing about this. Where's the outrage about this abomination or is just whinging about perceived sexism all they're good for these days or pathetic nit picking.

"Excerpt from main article:

Added to this short-term, deeply political decision-making is the undeniable enjoyment Rudd would get in watching colleagues vote for a change of party rules that effectively amounted to a repudiation of their collective action in ousting him back in 2010. One final kick in the teeth for Gillard and the so-called faceless men, as it were.

This reform also puts the Labor Party at the potential mercy of an individual leader (ironic for the party of the collective workers), and it even increases the likelihood of a party split at some time in the future. For example, if one major faction within the Labor Party continued to support a PM it would be highly unlikely that the remainder of the party would be able to collectively achieve the 75 per cent quota required to oust the leader.

This is just one of a raft of unintended consequences Labor is exposing itself to

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Theoretically the reform Rudd wants his caucus to endorse means voters could keep on re-electing a leader of the Labor Party who enjoyed the support of only one-quarter of its parliamentary team, even though that same leader pursued policies totally at odds with the brand of the party they led."

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/sweeping-powers-create-dictatorship/story-e6frg6zo-122667855...

[i-need-a-martini]

Are you sure your'e not AM3, always begging for proof,  links & everything else.

Where did I ask for a link? All I ask on the OP is your understanding the reforms and I have had NOTHING. No point asking me to google because what I am after is YOUR understanding of the policy. I already know what it means so I don't have a need for more research. Without your response I can only assume YOU have no understanding at all on the subject.

As for the, ahem, 'policy' document, all I ask is for you to quote one policy from that document. Just one single policy. 

And you have the audacity back at the start of thise thread to ask me to "debate" you. Lol.

[i-need-a-martini]

Oh and by the way, 70 statements do not a policy make. Without the 'how', they are simply statements.

Anyone can make a statement about anything but it is meaningless without the follow on required to give it substance. A bit like your posts really...

[silverfaun]

Conroy has just announced the Green/Labor divorce.

Never again will they go into any agreement with this   group who destroyed Labor, as we saw Labor implement the disastrous Green policies.

I wonder if they need them in the next election will we see the poisonous embrace rekindle.

[i-need-a-martini]

Just announced it where? 

On CS?

Another good example of empty statements that the Liberals are so good at.

[silverfaun]

Just so you can't get away with the many outrageous lies you utter, I did NOT ASK to debate YOU & the  announcement of the Green divorce was just made on The Insiders.

Please try to be somewhat perspicacious in your  statements I don't want to have to correct everything you say.

[catsnknots]

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@i-need-a-martini wrote:

Just announced it where? 

On CS?

Another good example of empty statements that the Liberals are so good at.

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I saw him on TV stating that Labor should never again join the greens in partnership... 

Not an empty statement at all. 

[i-need-a-martini]

He has resigned right? The Greens opposed his bill right?

Does he have an agenda perhaps? I think so.

The Greens have always thrown their votes Labors way. And will continue to do so.

The 'divorce' (the term that the is often mentioned in wistful wishful thinking tone on the Liberal official website) is about as likely to happen as the National party divorcing the Liberals.

[freakiness]

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@i-need-a-martini wrote:

The 'divorce' (the term that the is often mentioned in wistful wishful thinking tone on the Liberal official website) is about as likely to happen as the National party divorcing the Liberals.

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Or as likely as the msm raising Abbott's travel expenses rorts.

http://www.phonytonyabbott.com/blog/how-the-taxpayer-paid-for-tony-abbott-to-compete-in-surf-races

[izabsmiling]

Hitler was like this if I remember my history correctly, had this power over people like we see on this forum....

“The receptivity of the masses is very limited, their intelligence is small, but their power of forgetting is enormous. In consequence of these facts, all effective propaganda must be limited to a very few points and must harp on these in slogans until the last member of the public understands what you want him to understand by your slogan.” 
― Adolf Hitler

what else...he had a win at any cost attitude,he did away with unions and desired to make 'the perfect race' ..... he caused so much pain and horror 

[not_an_eloi]

conroy.  said wot