on 26-11-2013 09:27 PM
Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono says "precise measures" must be taken to avoid a repeat of the spying which caused a deep rift in relations with Australia.
Dr Yudhoyono on Tuesday met with some of his closest advisers and senior ministers to discuss an official response to a letter from Prime Minister Tony Abbott.
The letter was received on Saturday in response to demands from Jakarta for an explanation over the tapping of the president's phone in 2009.
While Indonesian officials have refused to reveal the contents of the letter, a spokesman for the president said before the high-level meeting at the presidential palace that it was in line with expectations.
Indonesia last week suspended all military co-operation with Australia, as well as co-operation in combating people smuggling, intelligence gathering and anti-terrorism efforts.
on 27-11-2013 07:52 PM
oh i see, its like that is it?
just so we are clear, i love juicy red meat and i love vegetables too, but i am not a fanatic of either!
27-11-2013 07:56 PM - edited 27-11-2013 07:56 PM
We should stop the export of both live cows and sheep to those countries who demonstrate that they do not treat them in a humane way.
Let them eat Spam. We could cash in on a whole new manufactuing industry here, folks.
on 27-11-2013 08:27 PM
on 27-11-2013 09:08 PM
A horrendous trip[ for cattle to Indonesia?
Last year approximately 280 of the 278,000 live cattle that were sent to Indonesia died onboard a vessel or .11%
I guess they could stay at home?
http://www.daff.gov.au/animal-plant-health/welfare/export-trade/mortalities
on 27-11-2013 09:10 PM
I guess they could stay at home?
http://www.mla.com.au/News-and-resources/Industry-news/Boosting-breeder-cow-survival
"The mean female mortality ranged from 3.9% in the WA West Kimberley region to 12.84% in the Alice Springs region for the same period. (The breeder mortality rates are likely to be somewhat higher than these values as non-breeding females are not suffering as much nutritional stress or other risks associated with pregnancy and calving). Individual properties in the Queensland northern Gulf varied from 2.6% to 19.6%."
on 27-11-2013 11:44 PM
on 27-11-2013 11:53 PM
Oops, hit the wrong key.
Colic, do you support the export of live animals to Indonesia and other countries which have similar slaughtering methods?
on 27-11-2013 11:57 PM
on 28-11-2013 12:28 AM
I do not support live export and it has nothing to do with the way they are slaughtered. The journey would already be enough torture.
I'm not a vegetarian.
on 28-11-2013 12:34 AM
Indonesia claims they haven't enough refrigerators for the people to buy killed meat so they want to import live meat and kill it as required.
Either Spam them or bomb their cities with fridges.
Stop the live stock export trade. it's cruel and inhumane.