on 01-01-2016 05:06 PM
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/new-years-eve-goes-to-the-dogs-20160101-glxvz1.html
New Year's Eve is the busiest time of the year for the Lost Dog's Home.
Sixty-five dogs were admitted to the North Melbourne shelter with around half reunited with their families. At the Cranbourne shelter, only 14 of the 40 dogs admitted have been collected.
Lost Dog's Home general manager for animal welfare David Cunliffe said it will take several days to reunite most families.
"It's a very busy night for admissions of dogs ... and it is entirely due to the noise of the fireworks and I think people often being out of the house when it's happening."
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on 02-01-2016 09:16 PM
@bluecat*poledancing wrote:http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/new-years-eve-goes-to-the-dogs-20160101-glxvz1.html
New Year's Eve is the busiest time of the year for the Lost Dog's Home.
Sixty-five dogs were admitted to the North Melbourne shelter with around half reunited with their families. At the Cranbourne shelter, only 14 of the 40 dogs admitted have been collected.
Lost Dog's Home general manager for animal welfare David Cunliffe said it will take several days to reunite most families.
"It's a very busy night for admissions of dogs ... and it is entirely due to the noise of the fireworks and I think people often being out of the house when it's happening."
I am glad that its illegal to light fireworks. Whats wrong with people, families, going to an organised event and watching it all together?
But even with these events, every year animals suffer. I wish people would put their animals inside for the night.
A couple of years ago, seeing a cowering, terrified dog too frightened to find his way home, just running in the darkness across a 4 lane highway is a sight I will never forget.
Also, one of my close friends lost one of his eyes when he was 16, at a local park, with lots of people lighting fireworks. Not just his sight, his eye. It was absolutely devastating- changed him and his life forever.
So when some start talking about stifling rules and regulations, as if it is only another political decision by a 'faceless bureaucrat' forgive me if I leave the room.
on 03-01-2016 12:53 PM
@opmania wrote:If you are refering to fireworks
Bothering you why don't you
Just say that in the first place instead
Of hiding behind a dog decoy
I for one am not hiding behind a dog decoy, which is what this thread is about pure and simple, not all the other woes in the world... the latter being the real decoy. .
I like fireworks but I also know they can terrify dogs and if this can be prevented even in a small way I am more than for it.
I am glad backyard fireworks have been banned, thrilled in fact. I remember as a kid how many humans were maimed by them, apart from animals.
on 03-01-2016 04:39 PM
I guess some animals can behave just like some people.
Some are more sensitive, some can ignore stress..some need thoughtful, tender handling, while others take care of themselves, and perhaps cope better at certain times.
on 03-01-2016 05:50 PM
Quite apart from the distress caused to animals, which on its own is reason enough for people to stop being so selfish as to set them off, quite a few fires were caused by them as well, putting people and their homes in jeopardy and forcing volunteer ses and firies to have to leave their own families and celebrations to deal with them.
They are banned for a reason and personally I wouldn't hesitate to dob in anyone using them illegally.
on 03-01-2016 06:24 PM
I'd like to see people who let off fireworks illegally do community service at a lost dogs home, or with returned servicemen, and women, who suffer from PTSD, so they can get to see the consequences of their selfish actions.
It might make them think twice.
on 04-01-2016 01:02 PM
@jimmy*part3 wrote:
It's a fact, you never nurture a fearful or aggressive action of a dog, it only reinforces the behaviour. Which of course is different from comforting a tramatized dog.
So what...your experience was different. Nothing is 100% in every situation.
Pets take their cues from the owners. I have no doubt that every time a celebration is going to have fireworks the dog sensed your nervousness. And I bet everytime a storm rolls through you looked at the dog, with concern, and the dog saw that and knew something was up.
Reacted badly to every thunderstorm her whole life? I'm not surprised, your dread is feeding this reaction.
Anybody who is preaching "one way fits all" for all animals does not have a clue what they are talking about. And if you actually read what I wrote then you would have noticed that :
A - the original very loud thunder strike happened in the middle of the night, it woke us all, I did not show fear (did not have a time), and neither did the other 3 dogs
B - the frightened dog never shown fear before this storm and she was about 4 at the time of that storm
C - although I was worried how this particular dog is going to handle the fireworks,, SHE DID NOT SHOW ANY CONCERN about them that year, or ever. But she continued to be somewhat distressed by thunder, even very distant rumbling. The other dogs continued to be fine, despite living with me and my concern about the frightened dog.
And finally, being concerned does not mean having anxiety attack. If people showed some concern how their animals might react to fireworks, this thread would not be posted.
I have bred dogs for over 40 years, and owned dogs for most of my life. My knowledge comes from observing dogs (there were times I had up to 8 in my house) and whole litters. Dogs are all individual, even tiny puppies in the whelping box will react different ways to the same events.
on 01-01-2016 05:33 PM
It's just awful, Blue
I see poor terrified dogs running mindlessly along the main road, every year
No way will they stop, till either hit or exhausted
People don't think about their pets on NYE
on 01-01-2016 06:30 PM
Same here, and on Guy Fawkes Night (5th Nov). Lots of petrified and cowering dogs. And their ears are more attuned and sensitive than ours, so the sounds are magnified. Has to be said though, owners do seem to keep them indoors at such times, so you don't see them charging down the streets.
on 01-01-2016 06:37 PM
A few years back, my old girl broke through a fence and two gates after illegal backyard fireworks scared her. She was missing for three days and was found further away than anticipated. The local rescue shelters had been inundated with terrified dogs and advised people to check in person because they had been unable to update their lists due to the sheer number. My neighbours' dog had panicked, smashed through a window and ended up being hit and killed by a car. The eldrly husband was devastated. Their sweet little dog used to have a nap with him very afternoon. Very sad. Those who partake in backyard fireworks should be given hefty fines and thrown in jail.
I do like fireworks because they are so pretty.
on 01-01-2016 06:47 PM
I remember Guy Fawkes night when I was a kid. We used to have so much fun. I remember going to the milk bar with my siblings to buy penny bungers, rockets and catherine wheels. We would have been aged between 5 and 11 years old.. There's no way on earth that I would have allowed my kids to do that. The things that kids used to be able to do makes it amazing how so many of us managed to survive into adulthood.
on 01-01-2016 08:21 PM
That was probably because parents took the time and trouble to instill some common sense?
It's life Jim, but not as WE know it.
Live long and prosper.
on 01-01-2016 10:20 PM
@bluecat*poledancing wrote:A few years back, my old girl broke through a fence and two gates after illegal backyard fireworks scared her. She was missing for three days and was found further away than anticipated. The local rescue shelters had been inundated with terrified dogs and advised people to check in person because they had been unable to update their lists due to the sheer number. My neighbours' dog had panicked, smashed through a window and ended up being hit and killed by a car. The eldrly husband was devastated. Their sweet little dog used to have a nap with him very afternoon. Very sad. Those who partake in backyard fireworks should be given hefty fines and thrown in jail.
I do like fireworks because they are so pretty.
One of my dogs scaled a 2.7 mtr. fence and ran off one night when the local council had a fireworks display. He didnt return until the next day. Very worrying.
on 01-01-2016 10:47 PM
@bluecat*poledancing wrote:I remember Guy Fawkes night when I was a kid. We used to have so much fun. I remember going to the milk bar with my siblings to buy penny bungers, rockets and catherine wheels. We would have been aged between 5 and 11 years old.. There's no way on earth that I would have allowed my kids to do that. The things that kids used to be able to do makes it amazing how so many of us managed to survive into adulthood.
Now many of the kids just sit around smoking dope and getting bored. It seems that everything I did in my teens is now illegal or not accepted by society.
We used to ride unregistered old trail bikes in the scrub. ( now national parks ).
We would trap rabbits and sell them to the local freezer for pocket money.
We would climb enormous trees to collect birds eggs. The rarer the better.
We would go spotlighting in an old unregistered sand buggy, shooting rabbits and foxes, often driving down the backroads betweeen bush farms.
We would go down clay bush tracks after rain and practice sliding old cars around in the mud, often hitting trees and occasionally tipping the cars over.
We would go camping in the scub ( now national parks ) and keep warm with very big "bushies" ( bonfires ) often with a few fireworks.
We would explore ancient aboriginal camp sites and burial grounds. And yes we where very respectful for a bunch of lads.
It was a lot different to todays helicopter parents with kids wrapped in cotton wool.
I can see why attitudes have changed to some of these things, but it was all pretty harmless and healthy fun for a kid. We lived in a fairly remote area and there wasnt the preasure on natural resources from weekend warriors in there shiny SUV,s like there is today. The more people there are, the more rules you need. As we become more overpopulated, the rules become more oppressive, stifling any sense of adventure or initiative.
Result, lots of bored kids without much hope or any sense of adventure or initiative.
on 01-01-2016 11:16 PM
Guy Fawkes day is still celebrated
In the UK and a few other countries
Fireworks, bonfires and burning effigies
Of Guy Fawkes.
Why would a tradition that has been
Running for hundteds of years be seen
Here as an illegal activity just because
A faceless beaurocrat deemed it so.
Times are changing and in some cases
Not for the bettter.
The ability to think and act responsibly
Has been thwarted to the point that every
Single action is governed by stifling rules and
Regulations creating an unrealistic fear of
Law abiding citizens to stay within the
Suffocating boundaries of the law.
02-01-2016 12:04 AM - edited 02-01-2016 12:05 AM
Oooh! Dagnabbit! It's a gittin' so as a indiviual can't do nothin' no more!
All them laws and rules and reggy-lations about safety and then thar's bein' courteous to people and being a good citizen and has'n done to yerself as you you would do wit others...
Hoo Boy! I say, it gits me furly well steamed up, it does!