on 28-03-2017 09:22 AM
Whilst i have never smoked and would find someone smoking on a train i was riding very unpleasant i really dont like the fact we have a police force who turn minor incidents into life and death outcomes.
when we wind up injuring people or in worst case senarios killing them over very minor incidents i think we have mucked up badly our policing system.
utube is littered with evedence of police taking minor incidents and turning them into these rediculous over the top outcomes.
are police not getting trained how to defuse potential powder kegs?
are police not allowed to just move back from something until the person calms down, even if it means the person leaves?
from many of the videos ive sen the police create a problem then suddenly there can be 5 or 6 police officers sourounding a law breaker provoking a response just so they can take something that maybe was a warning and go on your way to a street fight with multiple police piling onto the perp.
yes, smoking on the train...bad
but a simple "sir, its an offence to smoke on the train please dont do it, on your way" might have been a better use of police time.
now we have a news worthy incident, multipe police officers needing to write reports (how much time and money does that use up?) hospital resources being used up, ambulance peoples time. if he survives a court case?
no wonder we have ever increasing taxes to pay for these things.
on 28-03-2017 09:58 AM
@davidc4430 wrote:"sir, its an offence to smoke on the train please dont do it, on your way" might have been a better use of police time.
Could be more than meets the eye.
Maybe the cops did say this?
The man may have reacted violently, who knows?
Althugh if someone called the police I'd like to have thoughty they were too busy t ocme.
on 28-03-2017 10:59 AM
i'm not an expert obviously but in my mind someone who lights up a smoke on a train is prolly someone with a 'chip on their shoulder' to start with.
so police ought to be going into a confrontation thinking this person is most likely to have a bad reaction to being challenged. lets not go in all guns blazing, lets try to give a warning without having it turn into outright war.
on 28-03-2017 11:25 AM
@davidc4430 wrote:i'm not an expert obviously but in my mind someone who lights up a smoke on a train is prolly someone with a 'chip on their shoulder' to start with.
so police ought to be going into a confrontation thinking this person is most likely to have a bad reaction to being challenged. lets not go in all guns blazing, lets try to give a warning without having it turn into outright war.
Or they are getting fed up with these idiots thinking they can do whatever they like and that they show no
respect to anyone,(let's put the blame where it belongs).
He knows it's against the law to smoke on the train but decided that he doesn't care and did it anyway.
If anyone runs from the cops and injures themselves then they can only blame themselves and it's about
time that the courts started to reflect that,(they are in the wrong then they pay the "price"),
on 29-03-2017 06:35 PM
29-03-2017 06:47 PM - edited 29-03-2017 06:48 PM
In Vic, we have Protective Service Officers, a branch of the Police Force,
who man the trains and stations, looking for evil doers.
Speshully thems that smoke on the trains.
The guy shouldn't have run. It was his own fault if he got hurt.
on 29-03-2017 06:59 PM
on 29-03-2017 07:00 PM
on 29-03-2017 07:02 PM
on 29-03-2017 07:03 PM
Any money he didn't run just cos it was a cigarette.
He was probably high on something else and didn't want to get sprung.