Mandatory Vaccination: Would you support it?

[the_bob_delusion]

https://www.theage.com.au/world/south-america/brazilian-supreme-court-rules-against-covid-anti-vaxxe...

Does the collective health for all trump the right of individuals?

Discuss

[domino-710]

Yes:

[4channel]

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@domino-710 wrote:

(See Post #62 )

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OK you post something with a meter that has tin foil hat at the other end of its scale. Quite reliable?

Even if Brandy Vaughan's website was conspiracy theory nonsense ( as anything that opposes gig pharma is labelled by some people), that doesn't discount what she said when she blew the whistle. Why don't you want to talk about that?

Question: Do you think her death was suicide, natural or other? Be honest here please.

Question: Do you believe that some Big Pharma companies may be corrupt or at the very least, a little bit dodgy?

[4channel]

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@ambercat16 wrote:

So did I

And regarding your comments about the vaccine being rushed:

Quick vaccine development not a concern

There are concerns that vaccine development has been rushed, but people needn’t be worried, writes Mark Toshner, Director of Translational Biomedical Research, University of Cambridge. It’s true that development normally takes ten years, but this is a bad thing. Most of this time is spent seeking funding, on the logistics of setting up trials and navigating red tape. The rapid COVID-19 vaccine trials haven’t cut corners – they’ve shown what’s possible when we remove all potential barriers.

Full article covering many other concerns about the vaccines here

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Nice to see you pop in to comment here ambercat. Thanks for your input,. Well, I'm going to go with what the experts in vaccines have been saying as well as suspected medical professionals, much of them pro vaccine too. They're saying it's too early, way too early. It takes years to be proven safe.

I'm not saying Toshner is corrupt or on the take as I don't know a whole lot about him. There are others in his field who are though. What I am going to say is that he is wrong. I'm going with what the experts are saying here. Not Toshner or Big Pharma.

[davewil1964]

Can't see a tinfoil hat anywhere on dom's scale.

Of course, you have OBJECTIVELY determined the provenance of your sources.

[4channel]

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@davewil1964 wrote:

Can't see a tinfoil hat anywhere on dom's scale.

Of course, you have OBJECTIVELY determined the provenance of your sources.

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Go back to my post #72 and you will see I referred to (See Post #62 ).

And feel free to discuss in a reasonable fashion.

[not_for_sale2025]

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@ambercat16 wrote:

So did I

And regarding your comments about the vaccine being rushed:

Quick vaccine development not a concern

There are concerns that vaccine development has been rushed, but people needn’t be worried, writes Mark Toshner, Director of Translational Biomedical Research, University of Cambridge. It’s true that development normally takes ten years, but this is a bad thing. Most of this time is spent seeking funding, on the logistics of setting up trials and navigating red tape. The rapid COVID-19 vaccine trials haven’t cut corners – they’ve shown what’s possible when we remove all potential barriers.

Full article covering many other concerns about the vaccines here

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Unfortunately, some people have views based upon their beliefs from outer space, rather than medical science. I say let them run with it and if they choose not to have the vaccine, then good luck. Sensible people will pay attention to the credible experts in their fields and make informed decisions. The misguided, well, they will just have to tell it to the hand.

[4channel]

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@not_for_sale2025 wrote:

Unfortunately, some people have views based upon their beliefs from outer space, rather than medical science. I say let them run with it and if they choose not to have the vaccine, then good luck. Sensible people will pay attention to the credible experts in their fields and make informed decisions. The misguided, well, they will just have to tell it to the hand.

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Sorry but I have to disagree in part. While some people do have airy-fairy views, many people in the "anti vaccination", "selective vaccination", "vaccine freedom to say yes or no" and even some pro-vaccination people have realized that some "medical science is owned".

What we are seeing here in front of us is a virus that is supposedly new on the scene. We are also seeing in the US that an effective early stages treatment is being withheld in favour of a fast tracked improperly tested vaccine. Whereas in India with its overcrowding, that effective early stages treatment is being used and they have only one eighth of the deaths that the US has.

A grave mistake was made when the US political (whatever you want to call them)  allowed the Sept 11 tragedy to be exploited by "The Oil Mafia" whiich had catastrophic results which exist to this very day.

I'm not anti vaccination! I support some. Common sense as well as the outcry of many medical professionals tells us that there's no way this vaccine can be deemed safe in such a short time. Until there is one at the correct time we need to concentrate effective early treatments as described by Dr. Peter McCulllough and educating people about proper health and nutritiion.

[domino-710]

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@4channel wrote:

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@davewil1964 wrote:

Can't see a tinfoil hat anywhere on dom's scale.

Of course, you have OBJECTIVELY determined the provenance of your sources.

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Go back to my post #72 and you will see I referred to (See Post #62 ).

And feel free to discuss in a reasonable fashion.

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That is very grandiose of you. 

[lalbo-81]

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@lalbo-81 wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@the_bob_delusion wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:
No but they have ways. Like denying you employment if you refuse.

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Would you rather go to a doctor who choose not to be vaccinated or go to one who is? 

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Huh? I don't use that criteria to choose my doctor.

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Wait. What? You don't verify that your doctor of choice is taking every precaution to protect you,the patient? That is a very peculiar way of thinking....

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The Medical Practice where I visit my doctor takes quite strict Covid precautions. Is my Doctor vaccinated against Covid? No. because no such vaccine is available as yet. Is she vaccinated against the 'flu?

I don't know, but if she isn't, I would consider it her choice, just as it is mine. As it is, I've had the Fluvax so I should be safe against the 'flu, don't you think?

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The question didn't strike me as being specific to any recent vaccines. Would you accept a " doctor" whohasn't been vaccinated for anything? That's how I read it. You, actually none of us, have had the chance to decide if they would be foolish enough to go to a doctor who could be a Covid super spreader. Logic prevails when it comes to how I respond most of the time. 

[lalbo-81]

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@4channel wrote:

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@4channel wrote:

I'm the same as you on that one icyfroth, I wouldn't use that as an influencer. But thinking more on this, a doctor that decided against taking the vaccine would be someone who thinks independntly and less likely to be a drone or salesman for big pharma.  Yes, some are and some have been "sprung" in the past. That's another story for another topic. I want the doctor who is going to look at the bigger picture and give me the best for my buck.

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@davewil1964 wrote:

Here's one. Of many. Where you consider a doctor's non-adherence to acceptable standards to be a plus.

There are may other instances.

You really need to look at what you have posted before posting stuff that doesn't align with what you've previously posted.

It shows either an inability to know what you think, or a deliberate attempt to sow dissention.

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You're entitled to your opinion davewil1964.

But as I asked on  Message # 50   Where on this thread are these conspiracy theories you talk of davewil1964?

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It doesn't matter where you posted them, and you are baiting a fellow member. Should you be reported for that too? I won't, but I'm just one person. You havea nice Christmas, all of you!