16-09-2013 03:56 PM - edited 16-09-2013 03:57 PM
The new Cabinet certainly vindicates former PM Gillards statements regarding "Men in Blue Ties''
one female minister. ms bishop.. the rest are men in blue ties.. dear me, more than half of the population represented by 1 person.. Ms Bishop.. misogyny ++++
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on 17-09-2013 06:01 PM
@just_me_karen wrote:
Too late, but laughing anyway 😄
I agree with you and icy. People should always be chosen through merit. Only one female made the grade, according to tony, so which is right?
- the liberal party attracts incompetent females?
- the liberal party attracts competent females but the leader is sexist so they're excluded?
Some seem to think you can have it both ways, i think there would be a few female liberal MPs out there who feel he's put a Dunces cap on every single one of their heads. the humiliation of not making that team would be a difficult thing for a (seemingly) successful person to take.
on 17-09-2013 06:04 PM
@izabsmiling wrote:
Moves to stop pay rises for up to 350 000 of the lowest paid workers in Aged and Child Care are in direct conflict with Tony Abbott's Committment that no worker would be worse off
so he is only stopping pay rises, not lowering their wages? That to me seems to suggest that they will be the same as they were before, not worse off. I do believe that you are focused on "no worker will be WORSE off"?
According to you, the man has made a committment that "no worker would be worse off". You seem to be confusing that with what is really being said that he will commit to "no change in their situation, if it is not possible to improve it".
Perhaps there are areas where their living costs will be reduced, resulting in more disposable income. It's easy to give someone an extra $20 a week but then take it off them via some other form of overt or covert tax or compulsory contribution. Perhaps, the cost of type writer maintenance will reduce, thus providing more disposable income, or the costs of some other essential service will be reduced.
Perhaps you have not considered the ramifications of transcending the tax brackets or movement within the tax brackets, should pay rises be implemented. Perhaps you have also failed to consider the benefits that these lower paid workers currrently receive that they may lose out on due to an increased income such as the FTB's, health care cards and other incomes tested assistance.
on 17-09-2013 06:13 PM
If wages are frozen, the CPI still rises which amounts to a wage cut effectively.
on 17-09-2013 06:14 PM
if they aren't getting their pay rise under the Coalition they are worse off
and there is more involved
The policies were released at 10pm Thursday pre-election (without public announcement)..think blackout time.
on 17-09-2013 06:21 PM
@just_me_karen wrote:
Too late, but laughing anyway 😄
I agree with you and icy. People should always be chosen through merit. Only one female made the grade, according to tony, so which is right?
- the liberal party attracts incompetent females?
- the liberal party attracts competent females but the leader is sexist so they're excluded?
You were doing so well until you gave such limited choices.
Perhaps the females currently within the Liberal party have not had sufficient training or displayed sufficient ability to merit promotion, yet.
Perhaps whilst so new to his job Tony prefers to use those who have already earned his confidence and have a proven record of being able to support him whilst he starts his new job. The time for experimentation and "tweaking the system" is not when something is brand new. In ordere to do his job, he needs to have absolute confidence in his team.
We need someone to lead our country in the best way that they are able to. If Tony's background makes it harder for him to recognise the strengths of able women or to earn his confidence, then in order for him to do his job effectively he needs to operate within his comfort zone.
Lets face the facts, the last time that an Australian Government had confidence in a female representative, it didn't really go that well. This doesn't encourage someone with traditional values to make an instant change.
Perhaps it is even a strategic move on the back of the recent unsurping of Julia. At this point in time, the public have reason to be wary of a female in an influential position. The last one made for a very unstable government.
on 17-09-2013 06:27 PM
@poddster wrote:m*a*c
I have no respect for the former PM, just as she had no respect for the taxpayers in the way the their taxes were squandered.
I reserve the right to show respect to those who earn that respect and those alone 🙂
That is apparent and only highlights your own inadequacies. Do you have so little self respect that you lower your own behaviour to that of a redneck?
She did a bad job. I am not in disagreeance with that, but I am certain that she did the best that she was able to do. I highly doubt that upon becoming Prime Minister that she had the intention to deliberately screw the nation.
on 17-09-2013 06:31 PM
@twinkles**stars wrote:IMO and how I see it, many here have already made up their minds that this government will fail regardless. Minds made up before the election in fact.
The Liberal party was overwhelmingly voted in by the people of Australia. It wasn't a mistake.
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Actually the Labor Party was voted in by the majority by over 200,000 votes. The COALITION got in with preferences.
on 17-09-2013 06:34 PM
@master*and*commander wrote:. I highly doubt that upon becoming Prime Minister that she had the intention to deliberately screw the nation.
Intentional or unintentional she did it anyway.
The prime objective was to stay in power, I refuse to believe that she was not aware of the carnage that she caused and is still causing.
on 17-09-2013 06:34 PM
History will show exactly how much Julia Gillard did for this Country
on 17-09-2013 06:37 PM
@poddster wrote:I have found that a lot of vocal females keep harping on about equality yet they still expect to to receive special treatment because of their gender.
I'd like to see how you would cope with the day to day insults and sexism and pu downs I have to put up with because I am a woman poddster.
The only 'special' treatment I would like is for the males I come into contact daily to stop focusing on my gender and treat me as an equal that is qualified (and usually MORE) qualified than they are.