One positive aspect of the contagion

[rogespeed]

As we are not allowing any migrants to arrive  ,

Every two weeks that the coronavirus contagion is active means up to 32,000  jobs available to existing locals compared with availability last year,  so over time may usher in a new golden age of fuller employment for the existing labour force including the newly minted former dsp recipients ( With a little formal fast-tracked upskilling and toughening up )   

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@*kazumi* wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:

Maybe Gary didn't want to be a Neurosurgeon.

Maybe he would have been happy as car wash attendant or a fence post digger.

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And you really think that people would not raher hire somebody local than somebody with limited English; but then again I imagine Gary's English is pretty limited too............

If people hire migrant in preference to local that is because they cannot get locals with the same qualifications or work ethics.  And considering that every migrant actually creates couple of jobs, the whole argument is moot. 

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I get what you're saying.

Thing is, the local's work ethics are too destroyed by welfare.

It's just to easy to pick up your dole  payment and spend it on grog, drugs and gambling.

Never mind family. Government pays family benefits. So what's the point of going out to find work?

So.Companies find it hard to source labourers locally and recruit overseas. 

OK. So ppl come from overseas hungry for work and a new life, but realise there are  government incentives to exploit, so why wouldn't they?

Wer'e not their people,so they don't need to particularly care about us.

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Is not the welfare system is a byproduct of the class system and access to alternate sources of employees within an employer's ethnic group - so also a byproduct of being multicultural and non-dispersed 

[icyfroth]

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@*kazumi* wrote:

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Thing is...the bogan positions are being taken up the the bogan immigrants as well. So no hope for the bogan Aussies except welfare,drugs and alcohol.

Like... what percentage of immigrants are neurosurgeons, do you know?

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There are no bogan migrants;

Sure there are. I see them every day digging trenches and mowing lawns.  Jobs that our local bogans could be doing. They're not all neurosurgeons, lol!

there are some refugees without much qualifications, but generally they are hard working and many start their own business. 

Agree they are hard working, and so was our local workforce until it became corrupted by welfare.

Migrants are only allowed in when they have qualifications that we need. 

Yes we need it because we no longer teach our own children to higher education. Why would we, if we can import from overseas?

There are many doctors being recruited because we do not have enough locally.

Exactly. And why don't we? We have the Universities and the Colleges that attract overseas students. Why can't we educate our own? Why are they languishing in government benefits?

  Australia has aging population and needs more people. 

Yes.So why are we legalising abortion clinics instead of supporting families?

Of course, drug addicts, alcoholics and mentally ill people are often unemployable; that has nothing to do with migrants.  

It kind of does. Because if we supported our own economy instead of selling everything off to overseas speculators, we would be able to keep our own population in work.

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[icyfroth]

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@rogespeed wrote:

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Thing is...the bogan positions are being taken up the the bogan immigrants as well. So no hope for the bogan Aussies except welfare,drugs and alcohol.

Like... what percentage of immigrants are neurosurgeons, do you know?

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There are no bogan migrants; there are some refugees without much qualifications, but generally they are hard working and many start their own business.  Migrants are only allowed in when they have qualifications that we need.  There are many doctors being recruited because we do not have enough locally.   Australia has aging population and needs more people.  Of course, drug addicts, alcoholics and mentally ill people are often unemployable; that has nothing to do with migrants.  

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er the eligiable relatives brought in later ? family , extended family , family in kind .... all highly qualified of course...

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Oh yes. All highly qualified. If they're so highly qualified, why don't their own countries keep them and cherish them?

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:

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Thing is...the bogan positions are being taken up the the bogan immigrants as well. So no hope for the bogan Aussies except welfare,drugs and alcohol.

Like... what percentage of immigrants are neurosurgeons, do you know?

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There are no bogan migrants;

Sure there are. I see them every day digging trenches and mowing lawns.  Jobs that our local bogans could be doing. They're not all neurosurgeons, lol!

there are some refugees without much qualifications, but generally they are hard working and many start their own business. 

Agree they are hard working, and so was our local workforce until it became corrupted by welfare.

Migrants are only allowed in when they have qualifications that we need. 

Yes we need it because we no longer teach our own children to higher education. Why would we, if we can import from overseas?

There are many doctors being recruited because we do not have enough locally.

Exactly. And why don't we? We have the Universities and the Colleges that attract overseas students. Why can't we educate our own? Why are they languishing in government benefits?

  Australia has aging population and needs more people. 

Yes.So why are we legalising abortion clinics instead of supporting families?

Of course, drug addicts, alcoholics and mentally ill people are often unemployable; that has nothing to do with migrants.  

It kind of does. Because if we supported our own economy instead of selling everything off to overseas speculators, we would be able to keep our own population in work.

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The point is without the usual influx of working high skilled migrants , there will be vacancies , which now will be filled by underemployed current resident migrants , with newly vacated unskilled work .... now available to the great unwashed 

[davidc4430]

you really want to eat chineese food made by aussies?

or all the other foods we get to enjoy we never would without migrants?

would you refuse service from an indian doctor or nurse?

this threads walking a fine line

they dont all pick fruit

but lets say they did, only because no sane aussie wants to do it.

there would be no fresh fruit in the shops, well not that you could afford to buy.

[rogespeed]

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@davidc4430 wrote:

you really want to eat chineese food made by aussies?

or all the other foods we get to enjoy we never would without migrants?

would you refuse service from an indian doctor or nurse?

this threads walking a fine line

they dont all pick fruit

but lets say they did, only because no sane aussie wants to do it.

there would be no fresh fruit in the shops, well not that you could afford to buy.

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I bin picked for $25 , sold for over $3000 at retail 

[myoclon1cjerk]

"Australia has aging population and needs more people. 

Yes.So why are we legalising abortion clinics instead of supporting families?"

Dear oh dear. You should move to Alabama or Mississippi.

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@myoclon1cjerk wrote:
"Australia has aging population and needs more people. 

Yes.So why are we legalising abortion clinics instead of supporting families?"

Dear oh dear. You should move to Alabama or Mississippi.

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Where did I mention abortions ? 

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@myoclon1cjerk wrote:
"Australia has aging population and needs more people. 

Yes.So why are we legalising abortion clinics instead of supporting families?"

Dear oh dear. You should move to Alabama or Mississippi.

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Where did I mention abortions ? 

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Nowhere. That's the point. We don't mention that we're killing off our young which would normally replace and support our aging population.

"we need more people". So why are we killing them off ( with government subsidisation), then importing ppl from overseas?

Make sense?