People who do not vaccinate will lose $

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From January 2016 parents who do not vaccinate their kids will lose up to $15 000 in allowances/concessions, except in cases of medical  and some religious reasons. 

[k0llectable5]

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@nevynreally wrote:

Okay. I reply to a poster, and a different one replies. Rinse/repeat.

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Oh sorry Nevyn.  I thought we were all involved in the discussion. 

[nevynreally]

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@secondhand-wonderland wrote:

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@nevynreally wrote:

Okay. I reply to a poster, and a different one replies. Rinse/repeat.

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Oh sorry Nevyn.  I thought we were all involved in the discussion. 

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You should be embarrassed. Infants have died because some have an agenda.

Target hit.

[nevynreally]

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@secondhand-wonderland wrote:

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@nevynreally wrote:

Okay. I reply to a poster, and a different one replies. Rinse/repeat.

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Oh sorry Nevyn.  I thought we were all involved in the discussion. 

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some here are involved in point scoring. Not dicussing the topic.

And some lead dream lives, And some live in the real world. Not where you'd choose to be.

[azureline**]

What's your agenda?

[k0llectable5]

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@gleee58 wrote:

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@secondhand-wonderland wrote:

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How can a child who is not carrying a disease spread a disease? When it is a well known fact that the recently vaccinated will actually shed the disease they have been vaccinated against for up to two weeks after vaccination. Childhood diseases are not back with a vengeance.  Where do you get your information? 

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Where do you get your information?

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Alot of different sources actually. Off the top of my head,  one major one who comes with a whole heap more is Dr Suzanne Humphries.  She has hours of lectures posted onto YT for anyone interested.  The Cochrane Collaboration, Dr Richard Blaylock, CDC, WHO, Disolving Illusions dot com, sane vax dot com, Vaers, medical, peadiatric, immunology and epidemiology journals.

And yours?

[gleee58]

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@secondhand-wonderland wrote:

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@gleee58 wrote:

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@secondhand-wonderland wrote:

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How can a child who is not carrying a disease spread a disease? When it is a well known fact that the recently vaccinated will actually shed the disease they have been vaccinated against for up to two weeks after vaccination. Childhood diseases are not back with a vengeance.  Where do you get your information? 

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Where do you get your information?

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Alot of different sources actually. Off the top of my head,  one major one who comes with a whole heap more is Dr Suzanne Humphries.  She has hours of lectures posted onto YT for anyone interested.  The Cochrane Collaboration, Dr Richard Blaylock, CDC, WHO, Disolving Illusions dot com, sane vax dot com, Vaers, medical, peadiatric, immunology and epidemiology journals.

And yours?

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I'm not the one who said children shed disease for weeks after vaccination.  And no, I don't believe that any scientist has said that vaccination causes the spread of disease for weeks after vaccination.

[cherry*135]

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@nevynreally wrote:

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@am*3 wrote:

Yes, the no jab, no pay.. is not an ultimate solution.

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Yeah, but wishing belongs in fairy land. Children die but as long as your social ideals are met. Ridiculous comment, I believe children should have their vaccinations.

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Pardon? No wishing involved. 

I have pointed out... this no jab/no pay scheme doesn't include ALL parents (even though the news headlines says/infers it does) which is misleadiing.

Should be -  no jab, no pay IF you are a parent in receipt of FTB (A?) and/or childcare supplement.. but thats more than 3 words isn't it?

[janeababe]

this topic is close to my heart atm, as my daughter and her partner have just announced that they will not be vacinating their new born twins.
I was initially distraught over this announcement, and actually lost sleep over it. I am pro-vacinations.

I did some research, then i did some reflecting.

As a child, my sister and i were both vacinated. I got mumps, we both got measles, and she got chicken pox. All by age 10.

My children were all vacinated. My son came home from school at aged 7 with chicken pox. He gave it to his sister aged 4, who in turn gave it to me, while i was heavily pregnant with child number 3.

Fast forward quite a few years and quite a few booster shots later, I hold no immunity to whooping cough whats-so-ever. I have had it 5 times already as a adult, despite booster shots. When my first grandchild was born, i even requested a *double-booster-shot* (given 2 wks apart) but my immunity level was minimal.

SO... while i was initially distraught about my new grand-daughters not being vacinated, i have to ask myself, is it fail safe anyway? My mother had my sister and i vacinated... we caught the very diseases we were vacinated against.  My children were vacinated, and they have been infected too.....

Last year, I had my immune levels checked..... sero-zilch! despite booster shots!
Is it the quality of the vacination? or have these diseases improved! super-bugs if you will.

I am still pro-vacination. I would hate for anyone to have to bury a child from a preventable disease.

[j*oono]

Smallpox was a terrible disease and because of inoculation and vaccination we no longer have it in our country.

The death rate was fairly high.  Do we want these diseases back, or for once is this government looking after your children?

Child with smallpox

[azureline**]

We don't vaccinate for smallpox do we?
I hope your grandchildren's parents have a good reason for their decision Jane.