Plastic bag bans: Here's how the alternatives stack up

[davidc4430]

Plastic bag bans: Here's how the alternatives stack up

http://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2018-06-20/plastic-bag-ban-options/9874474

[lyhargr_0]

My local IGA now has a stand of "Boomerang Bags", if you forget to bring a bag, you can borrow one ( or more ) and then bring them back next time you are shopping.  Yes! I know the germaphobics/ocders  ( sp ), on here won't like the idea, can't say it bothers me greatly

[travlyn2012]

It wouldn't matter what percentage of a bag is recyclable. If people can't be bothered in disposing of them accordingly

the issue will persist.

A Woolies store we frequent had the bin you referred to and was a good idea. I will add, that I noticed that it appeared to be the

elderly people using the bins more so than the younger people.

[go-tazz]

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@travlyn2012 wrote:

It wouldn't matter what percentage of a bag is recyclable. If people can't be bothered in disposing of them accordingly

the issue will persist.

A Woolies store we frequent had the bin you referred to and was a good idea. I will add, that I noticed that it appeared to be the

elderly people using the bins more so than the younger people.

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I found it similar and they are the first to scream about the environment but the last to do anything about it,(we

used to have a neighbour in his 20's that chucked everything in his bin whilst the recycle bin stayed empty),

He wasn't the only one as it happened in town as well were there were separate bins but most of the young

people were to lazy to walk an extra few feet to put stuff into the recycle bin,

[travlyn2012]

In my suburb we have a small local shopping centre of about 12 shops, half of which are food shops with tables outside.

The number of people (and mainly what I think woukd be under 30s) will eat and then leave the plastic bags and paper that a hamburger or chips etc are supplied in, sitting on the table and walk off.

A bit of wind, and it blows away, and most likely ends up in the stormwater drains.

They cant be bothered walking a short distance to place it in a bin.

I agree with you, then they scream about the enviroment.

The same applies to cigarette butts. Mostly, I see young people dropping them and walking away.

[the_great_she_elephant]

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@shoppingbag* wrote:

Just another stupid "nanny" law that punishes us all for the actions of a few. Punish the perpetrators and leave the rest of us alone, is what I say!

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The only ones being punished here are the perpetrators - those who use plastic bags. The rest of us - who already use our own reusable bags-  are being left alone.

It's a ridiculous beat up over a very simple issue. the world is sufocating under a tide of plastic.

Yes, those single use grocery bags may represent only a small % of the plastic problem, but "the longest journey starts with a single step." And now we are already starting to hear of schemes to do away with plastic drinking straws and throwaway cups.

Yes some of the bags maybe reused - but if they are used as  bin liners or to pick up dog poop, they are only being reused once and then off they go to landfill. My local council  already offers fee biodegrdable rubbish bags to residents. If your council doesn't, then ask them why not and keep asking until they do. It is also possible to buy ecofriendly bags quite cheaply online. 

[*kazumi*]

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@travlyn2012 wrote:

I was talking to one of the Barmaids at a club on Monday evening, after I made a comment about them still having plastic straws.

She told me she went to a woolies store, no plastic bags and had ran out of other bags to put her groceries in.

Said she was quite annoyed , and walked out leaving all the groceries in the trolley, and said that she and her husband are thinking of taking a wheelbarrow next time they go to the store.

I haven't met her husband , but knowing her, it wouldn't surprise me if that's what they do.

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How stupid.  I have my car full of those 99c Woolies bags, and if I buy too much I just drive the trolley to my car and sort it there.  Actually, unless I only buy one or 2 thinks, I drive the trolley to my car anyway.   IF by any chance I somehow manage not to have any bags in my car, I would just put the shopping on my back seat, and deal with it when I get home. 

[*kazumi*]

Back in dark ages when I was a kid we used have string bags, when I was very little they were made of jute, but later nylon.  They were easily scrunched up into small ball in handbag and expand to fit heap of stuff, and of-course, are washable.

[travlyn2012]

If the figures are correct, no doubt that the supermarkets will pass on the $170m a year savings to the consumers.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/staggering-amount-coles-woolworths-expected-make-reusable-bags-214731030.h...

[springyzone]

And pigs might fly too.

I have my own set of shopping bags but where I foresee this whole ban will be a bit of a pain is where you don't expect to do any grocery shopping but as you go by, you think-might as well pick up some meat and milk while I am here.

It is going to mean having to buy another bag because you may not carry one of the green bags just on the off chance.

The concept that worries me though is every shop seems to be getting on the bandwagon & charging for a bag to put your purchases in. Back when i was a kid, it was a given that your purchase had to go in something, and usually it was a paper bag.

From what I can see, what it is going to do as far as shopping in general goes is people may be ready for groceries, but if you're doing other shopping-gifts, clothes, all it is likely to do is pass an extra cost onto the consumer in most cases, not necessarily cut down greatly on bags.

[zanadoo_56]

Its Woolies money grab for their online shoppers I object to.

Delivery with bags is an extra $1 per order irrespective of the number of bags required.

Delivery with NO bags (or as they quaintly put it 'crate to bench') is $3.50 per order.

Plastic bags from Woolies - damned if you do....and damned x3 if you don't.

Coles also have a no bags home delivery option - and it's FREE.