Public Housing should be STOPPED & SOLD

[ufo_investigations]

The government buys houses and rents them out to people at a discounted rate and the tax payer has to carry this burden.

Why is this so?   Governments should not be buying houses!

I'm sorry but we should not have government housing!

Complete waste money!

All government housing should be sold to private sector!

The millions of dollars raised from the sale will build better roads, freeways, hospitals.

Governments should govern NOT buy houses for people to live in!

The job of government is to govern not babysit people!

***** Dear State Governments **** Please SELL ALL GOVERNMENT HOUSES !!! ****

[cherry*135]

You seem more interested in personal attacks than the topics in opening posts

UFO posts a lot on here and we can leave it up to him/her whether they want to read and/or take note of any posts, not our decision.

Apart from that, this is a disccusion board... some say sell the public housing... others say No we have to keep them... differing views not lectures or attacks.

[polksaladallie]

                 

[idlewhile]

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@am*3 wrote:

You seem more interested in personal attacks than the topics in opening posts

UFO posts a lot on here and we can leave it up to him/her whether they want to read and/or take note of any posts, not our decision.

Apart from that, this is a disccusion board... some say sell the public housing... others say No we have to keep them... differing views not lectures or attacks.

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I'll leave you to it seeing as you feel you have the right to enlighten us all. Good luck and good luck in your future endeavours on the forum.

[chameleon54]

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@am*3 wrote:

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@idlewhile wrote:

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Nothing personal in my replies. Asking for more general info, or more info to back up an assertion is not personal.. it is replying to content in posts.

I am interested in what type of areas ( in general, not street names/suburbs) that the State Govts buy public housing in now, as I know they don't just build blocks of them all in the same area/street anymore.

Apart from that as not many States are buying/providing a lot of new public houses now. Selling them off if they are worth big $$ now.

I have lived in 2 countries, many different areas and never lived next to a public housing house. If I did, there is nothing to say the residents would be ferals anyway.

The small villa next door to me is for sale for $580 000+... don't think the state Govt will be buying that anytime soon.

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Friends in Perth live in an area where the land value of a standard 600-750 mtr2 block is around $700,000. The govt. there put public housing next to them around five years ago. ( the same time as Julia " who gets around a bit " put them near our home ), So dont speak too soon. Oh Hang on, Julias gone now hasnt she , maybe this government will be a little bit more fiscally responsible with our money....................................... ( or maybe give it to the elite few.....  )

[zanadoo_56]

When I read the original post it was one of those occasions when I wish there was a Thumbs Down button.

No public housing - seriously?  Private rental is already through the roof.

One of the claims of privatising our utilities was how 'competition' (ha!) would keep costs down and we'd be better off.  We would in fact be saving money.  When I look back at old gas and electricity bills when the state government owned these utilities, then compare them to my gas and electricity bills now, I could just weep with sheer anger and frustration at this train wreck of 'savings' we were supposed to get, instead of which we are paying through the nose.

And that's exactly what would happen if all public housing was handed over to a load of greedy companies who couldn't give a rats about people, but would just rub their collective hands with glee at their profit margins.

I assume the OP doesn't live in public housing.  Neither do I.   I have lived in (state owned) married quarters many years ago though....the last one with wall to wall mould and weeds that grew under the house and into the kitchen cupboards.  Is the OP also opposed to married quarters allocated to military families?  In some posting locations there is NO private housing available.

I hope I will always have a roof over my head (currently a modest house with a mortgage) but you never know if your circumstances may change.  What if I lose my job?  What if I can't afford to live in my house?  Private rental isn't going to help me....and right now public housing is not possible either because of the waiting lists.  I'd be living on the street for years in a very long queue.

It's not that we should get rid of public housing, in fact we should be building more, and even more importantly, maintaining and repairing the ones the states already have but for reasons best known to the bureaucrats, think it is acceptable to leave these houses unoccupied to the extent that some streets have taken on the look of slums.

[cherry*135]

iw -  Good luck and good luck in your future endeavours on the forum.

I have been posting/lurking on this forum for about 10 years.. don't really need any good luck, good luck

People have differing views/opinions... be a strange discussion board if they didn't.

[cherry*135]

State Government is responsible for public housing.

[the_hawk*]

A good sign of a communities morals and values is shown by how they treat the poor, the sick , the elderly and those that cant look after themselves for what ever reason.

Over the years I have paid a heap in taxes and I have never begrudged people that fall into that category getting help.

What I do begrudge is the level of entitlement that politicians feel they deserve and just take at the exspence of ordinary people that is well above community standards

So I will ask you, where is your community standard, valuses and care factor for others that are less fortunate than yourself

[siggie-reported-by-alarmists]

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@chameleon54 wrote:

I have two nice new Public houses built behind my back fence. Part of the "integrating them into society" project that Julia ran ( thanks Julia ). When they where being built it scared the pants off the neighboring house owners as it is a nice middle class suburb. Some where going to sell up and move. Four years down the track and we have several mature aged men with varying IQ,s ( a couple are not the sharpest tools in the box ) and a woman who had to have emergency housing for her five kids, ( from different partners ), so jumped the waiting list and promptly moved her new de-facto in. We have had a few problems, but nothing too bad.

I firmly believe the three blokes who share one house, just would not cut it in the private rental market. They are just not switched on enough to manage the rent and keep it together. ( they dont seem to have dependence issues, just verging on intellectually disabled or very low IQ ) What are we supposed to do, leave them homeless ?   These guys definately need government funded housing.

The other family are just bludging on the system. They buy and sell used cars, know how to get out of bed in the morning and "do stuff" all day. The mum is pretty smart and would have no trouble at all of getting a job. Instead they choose to have lots of kids ( more welfare ) contribute nothing to society and get a brand new house ( much better than mine ) for their trouble.

The system certianly needs an overhaul and much greater scrutiny of who gets the houses. That does not mean we scrap the whole system. Some people just would not make it in the private rental sector.

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Jealous of their house...... seriously?

I agree with some of what you have to say.....however you seem to be against women raising their children.

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I realise I dont post on this forum often and so you have no idea what my views are.

I,m not jealous of a house. I am disapointed that I have to work extra time away from my wife and kids to support low life bludgers who are quite capable of getting a job and supporting themselves.

As for being against woman raising thier kids, you couldnt be more wrong. I have a number of friends who are single mums and juggle a part time job with raising their kids. Its not easy and I have nothing but respect for them. I also have friends who are single mums and rely on government assistance. Again it is very difficult as they dont recieve a fortune. 

 In the case of the family across the road, the wife probably has excellent employment prospects and is not that all that family orientated. On the other hand her full time, live in, defacto partner is probably less likely to get a job, but is great with the kids.  I am just not discriminating based on gender stereotypes. In this case the wife would be more suited to supporting the family and building a career than her partner.

If the bludgers where weeded out of the system it would leave adequate resources for those who genuinly need the support. At the moment there is not enough money and support for genuine people in need because too many others who dont really need help are leeching off of the system.

I am actually very passionate about assisting those with genuine physical and mental health problems, the elderly and single mums who are left to fend for themselves by their partners. 

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You posted your views....lol. And yes, your post comes across jealous.

If the man living in the house is not the childrens father..... he should not be their full time career. Not his position.

If the mother is intelligent, I'm glad she had 5 kids and is staying home to raise them.  One of them might just be your boss one day.

Nosy neighbour from hell.....lol.

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For the last thirty years I have been my own boss. But yes you are correct. A couple of the kids are really bright, energetic, smart kids. I have got a lot of time for them. Its just a pity that they dont recieve any boundries or guidance from their parents as they are running pretty much wild, getting into substance abuse etc. Its heart breaking to see as they are great kids. If one of them manages to get out of the rut they are in and ends up being my boss in the future it wouldnt worry me at all. All power to them if they can achieve something like that !!!!

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Glad to know it wouldn't bother you.....have you anymore gossip you would like to spread about your neighbours?

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@idlewhile wrote:

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@am*3 wrote:

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@idlewhile wrote:

We live in a lovely area with water views and next thing, a house is sold to public housing and we are now having to put up with housos of the very worst kind, I thank Julia for that, I hope she gets the scum of the earth moving in next to her or worse.

These cockroaches drink all day, don't work, and music blaring from dawn onwards. Smoke like trains and covered in tatts.

So do these people deserve a beautiful home subsidised by the workers of Australia whilst they live in the disgusting manner they have become accustomed to?

Comments from people who are in the same situation would be welcome.

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iw wrote: I don't see what that has to do with it and I won't be giving personal and private information out on here, but thanks for asking though.

Tatts - I was referring back to your comment above, which is a gross generalisation.

I didn't ask for any personal info... a year of purchase for a Govt housing house isn't personal/private info nor is a value range for a Govt house purchased a few years ago.

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You wouldn't be saying that if they lived next door to you now, would you. Is it possible for you to reply to a post without a personal attack, just asking.

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She asked a fair and reasonable question.... after all...... we did pay for it.