Shopping centres allowing smoking at entrances

[ufo_investigations]

We all know what the effects of passive smoking are and yet in 2013 you can't access any major shopping centre entrance without passing through cigarette smoke.

Today, at a major shopping centre in Melbourne we endured cigarette smoke whilst entering and leaving the complex. A cigarette tray was affixed next to a doorway (supplied by the shopping centre). This was 1 metre away from a doorway and 1 metre away from a pedestrian zebra crossing which leads to the entrance. How ridiculous is this?  Young children, pregnant women and elderly use the crossing to enter the complex including my wife and I. Shopping centres are private property and they can ban smoking on their land if they want to but they have not. Why not?

50 metres away there was a childrens playground with smoking permitted on the fenceline. How ridiculous is this?

The sign read "No smoking within 5 metres".   Which means smoking is permitted as much you like after 5 metres. Guess what? The fenceline of the playground is after the 5 metres. Silly or what?

Next time you visit your shopping centre please observe these silly ashtrays next to doorways and make yourself heard. I have reported this to centre management and will continue to do so until it is changed. Please do the same.

[gem-boy-g]

is it only cigarette smoke that brings on your asthma attacks?

[fourandsixpants]

replying to sptsw:

Smoking is in decline-as are the areas smokers are allowed to indulge their habit-yet respiratory ailments are on the rise.I'll let you decide what's to blame,motorists:-) 

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chemtrails, seriously, are to be blamed for the increase in respiratory ailments.

 “What In The World Are They Spraying?” 

" mortality from respiratory diseases went from being the 8th most leading cause of death in the USA to being the 3rd in a span of 5 years..." Dr Gwen Scott http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoKkebpzu7Q&feature=youtu.be

Aerosol Crimes (aka 'Chemtrails') Clifford Carnicom, 2005

even monman has pointed out that there is absolutely no proven science to connect passive smoke to being cause of serious respiratory disease.... 

Happy Christmas everyone.            

[the_hawk*]

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@gem-boy-g wrote:

is it only cigarette smoke that brings on your asthma attacks?

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In my case it is mainly smoke that brings on wheezing, shortness of breath and coughing.

On odd occasion perfume and air fresheners will do it but nothing like cigarette smoke and as soon as I move away the effects go quickly unlike the smoke effects that last some time even after moving away.

Exhaust fumes don't have the same effect either, this is me and different people react to different things and at different levels.

I am posibly more senitive to the smoke because i was a smoker for many years.

[ufo_investigations]

Smokers have no care where they smoke, non-smokers don't want to inhale your smoke. Why stand near an entrance to a shopping complex so you can emit smoke onto others? This is simply a 'don't care' attitude. These are the people that need to be fined at least $500. Why don't you smoke in your back yard before going shopping. Shopping centres are places where young children and small babies go. It is for families to do their shopping.

[margomeoz]

There is a coffee shop near me where they put ashtrays on the tables in the outdoor area, this to me indicaates they are happy to have people drink their coffee and have a ciggy.

The minute you have 2 different lots of people there a table of smokers and a table of non smokers, the non smokers start waving their hands in the air yelling disgusting why do we have to put up with this.

So tell me who has the right to have their coffee at that shop?

Mind you there are another 10 coffee places nearby where you can't smoke but for some reason the non smokers want to sit and complain at this one.

The owner of this shop has the right to allow people to smoke there and you don't see them being rude to the non smokers.

[ufo_investigations]

The non-smokers that attend that smoke filled toxic coffee shop are going there voluntarily. That's their problem!

I'm talking about walking past an entrance to access the shopping centre, where I have no choice BUT to go past there to enter. This is a problem!

[nevillesdaughter]

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@margomeoz wrote:

There is a coffee shop near me where they put ashtrays on the tables in the outdoor area, this to me indicaates they are happy to have people drink their coffee and have a ciggy.

The minute you have 2 different lots of people there a table of smokers and a table of non smokers, the non smokers start waving their hands in the air yelling disgusting why do we have to put up with this.

So tell me who has the right to have their coffee at that shop?

Mind you there are another 10 coffee places nearby where you can't smoke but for some reason the non smokers want to sit and complain at this one.

The owner of this shop has the right to allow people to smoke there and you don't see them being rude to the non smokers.

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That's because presumably the non-smokers are not doing anything to affect the health or comfort of the smokers.

Personally, if a coffee shop allowed /encouraged smokers and their smoke came near me, I would change coffee shops after telling the management, quietly and without rancour, why.

Marina.

[ufo_investigations]

It is like parking a truck across the lane to a freeway entrance and having a smoke. Blocking traffic and causing a nuisance to other cars. WHO CARES attitude. This is exactly what is happening at the shopping centres. People SMOKING at the ENTRANCE. Blocking ACCESS for people wanting to shop. UNDERSTAND ENGLISH?

[freddie*rooster]

Whilst ever smoking is legal we all need to suck it up.

[nevillesdaughter]

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@freddie*rooster wrote:

Whilst ever smoking is legal we all need to suck it up.

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Agreed, and a coffee shop owner is in business to make a living, and will do whatever (banning/allowing smoking) is in his/her interests.

Sometimes I think we get a bit carried away with what a right is - you have a right to go into hospital and not have someone smoking in the bed next to you, so that doesn't happen. But I don't believe there is any constitutional/legal right to have a coffee in a commercial establishment unbothered by smoke from a nearby table. As I said before, you do have the right to go somewhere else, or home, to a smoke-free space.

Marina.

PS I am not a smoker - I loathe the habit, and gave up 30 years ago.