on 19-10-2013 02:52 PM
on 23-10-2013 10:22 AM
@colic2bullsgirlore wrote:See en en en en
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/10/22/world/asia/australia-bushfire-climate-change/
According to David Bowman, professor of forest ecology at the University of Tasmania, who has studied bushfires for more than 30 years, bushfire behavior is showing signs of change.
"The problem with Australia is that the records are pretty shallow, which makes it really difficult to talk conclusively about any of the fire activity.
But when you piece everything together there's some very convincing evidence.
Aggressive fires
"Even the firefighters are reporting really unusual behavior," said Bowman, adding that firefighters are fighting bigger and more aggressive fires.
"Normally at night -- and this is borne out by firefighters in the United States -- the fire will quell as the temperature cools.
But firefighters are saying that because of the heat, bushfires are burning just as fiercely at night. It's all getting pretty worrying."
Bowman says that deforestation fires alone -- the fires that have been used to destroy forests since the industrial revolution -- account for about one-fifth of all carbon dioxide committed to the atmosphere.
"That's a very significant component in global warming," he said.
One thing that is being noticed by scientists is that black carbon from forest fires is landing on ice sheets and accelerating ice melt.
The particles from forest fires, he said, actually inhibit rainfall contributing to regional drying and warming, which creates a weather cycle conducive to fires.
The problem for scientists, he added, was in connecting the dots with these patterns.
See en en en en
From your link -
"These are tricky and slippery factors because there are places where feedback from fires is actually causing cooling, especially
in places where the loss of forest has caused the snow to lie for longer leading to regional cooling."
Interesting.......
on 23-10-2013 10:27 AM
a straw for you to clutch
on 23-10-2013 03:32 PM
TONY ABBOTT says climate change is not a factor in the New South Wales bushfires.
United Nations climate chief Christiana Figueres, conservation groups and the Greens have pointed to climate change as leading to bushfires being more regular and intense.
But the Prime Minister says the UN chief was “talking through her hat”.
“Climate change is real and we should take strong action against it,” Mr Abbott told Fairfax Radio.
“But these fires are certainly not a function of climate change, they are just a function of life in Australia.”
Ms Figueres said yesterday bushfires are “absolutely” linked to climate change and said the Abbott government would pay a heavy price for walking away from a carbon price.
“The World Meteorological Organisation has not established the direct link between this wildfire and climate change - yet,” she said in an interview with CNN.
- See more at: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/in-depth/bushfires/climate-change-not-a-factor-in-nsw-bushfires-tony...
on 23-10-2013 03:44 PM
climate change is the reason for bush fires!!!!
send money to the united nations, conservation groups and the greens so they can save you
on 23-10-2013 04:56 PM
on 23-10-2013 05:30 PM
Re Abbotts comments to the UN representative. How unstatemanlike and how embarrassing for our country.
Why he is the expert with no evidence, no analysis, etc? And who does he think he is to have the temerity to insult this woman?
Karen Christiana Figueres Olsen, was appointed Executive Secretary of the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC) in 2010. She had been a member of the Costa Rican negotiating team since 1995 involved in both UNFCCC and Kyoto Protocol negotiations. She has contributed to the deisgn of key climate change instruments. She is a prime promoter of Latin America's active participation in the Convention, a frequent public speaker and a widely published author. She won the Hero for the Plant award in 2001.
If you read her Wikileaks entry she is a very commendable expert on the climate. I would think she has just a little more knowledge than him.
He could have just said he disagreed with her but to insult her in the way he did is just disgraceful.
on 23-10-2013 05:42 PM
I haven't read right through this thread so I apologise if this question has been answered already, but do we have any data to show how often in the past fires of this magnitude have occurred this early in the season?
on 23-10-2013 05:50 PM
23-10-2013 07:59 PM - edited 23-10-2013 08:00 PM
Same reason there were so many threads about Julia G (Juliar,Juliar every where you looked) or Kevin R (KRudd) when they were in office as PM.
on 23-10-2013 08:02 PM
@the_great_she_elephant wrote:I haven't read right through this thread so I apologise if this question has been answered already, but do we have any data to show how often in the past fires of this magnitude have occurred this early in the season?
No, not in this thread anyway.
Same as, no back-up for the claim NSW has had more severe bushfires in the last decade compared to decades before.