Should other countries intervene in Iraq?

[nero_bolt]

Should other countries intervene in Iraq? and the other countries inclues Australia 

Its turning into a real mess and blood bath... over run by extremist and terrorists 

Iraq: 'extreme, brutal' Isis fuels humanitarian crisis

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/15/iraq-extreme-brutal-isis-fuels-humanitarian-crisis-says...

Twitter forced to act after Iraq executions live tweeted

The Sydney Morning Herald reports graphic images of the executions of Iraqi soldiers were live tweeted by members of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant as they happened late last week.

The photos showed scores of soldiers rounded up into trucks before being forced face-down in the dirt with their hands tied behind their backs before being executed by automatic weapons.

On early Saturday ISIL tweeted it had executed 1700 Shiite soldiers, but the figure has not been confirmed by human rights groups.

Read more at http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/2014/06/15/13/38/twitter-forced-to-act-after-iraq-executions-live-t...

Read more at http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/2014/06/15/13/38/twitter-forced-to-act-after-iraq-executions-live-t...

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/2014/06/15/04/25/iran-offers-help-if-us-targets-iraq-rebels

[tall_bearded01]

Of what misinformation do you speak?

Did not the Soviets ally themselves with the fascist and invade Poland.

Did not the Soviets, in 1939, having invaded the Eastern half ofPoland,  then round up and drag most of the Polish Officer Corps in into a forest, line them up in front of a ditch and shoot them in the back of the head.

Did not the Soviets, having liberated Poland up to the Gates of Warsaw, then invite the Polish Free Army in the city to rise up, only to surround the city and let the Germans to put the uprising down, before pushing them (the Germans) out of the city.

No this could not have happened because these Soviets were communists, and all communists are good people who would never do such a thing.

[the_great_she_elephant]

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@tall_bearded01 wrote:

And as for your comments re Churchill having acquiesced to Stalin

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Is this the same Churchill who, in 1919, was instrumental in the Britains decision to send troops to fight the Bolsheviks?

Is this the same Churchill who throughout the 1920’s and 30’s was the lone voice in Britain attacking Stalin at every opportunity “as one of the two great evils of our time”.  The other of course being Hitler.

Is this the same Churchill who, having been advised byTruman that they should let Stalin keep what he had taken, is quoted as saying “An Iron curtain has now descended on Eastern Europe”.

That is, the one voice above all others attacking Stalin at every opportunity was that of Churchill.  Unfortunately then as is now, too few were prepared to listen until it was too late.

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Yes, it is exactly the same Churchill. And what does any of it have to do with my original statement?  I don't recall ever commenting on the morality of what happened to Poland only that it did happen. And hChurchill sayng "An iron curtain has descended on Eastern Europe" was simply a trueism -  an acknowledgement of what he and Roosevelt had allowed to happen.(or been unable to prevent from hapening)

[tall_bearded01]

I sorry but I must have misunderstood the point you were making, which I assumed to be - as we in the past had turned a blind eye it’s ok do the same now, with Poland being used as an example to justify that.

[the_great_she_elephant]

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@tall_bearded01 wrote:

I sorry but I must have misunderstood the point you were making, which I assumed to be - as we in the past had turned a blind eye it’s ok do the same now, with Poland being used as an example to justify that.

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Thanks, Tall Bearded, I suspect it was partly my fault too. I should have explained myself more clearly in my first post.

Apologies, everyone - we got a wee bit off topic there. Please feel free to ...

[pablo12_2007]

of course, you have never heard of an imperialist or a neocolonialist, let alone a neoliberal or neoconservative pushing Neocon Globalist adgendas - its all just democracy, right?  

[icyfroth]

Is that the other chihuahua?

[pablo12_2007]

im  not sure you will need to make hand jestures to communicate - they usually bark in response, Just to let you know. Nice day then isn't ?  If only we could save the poor bees as easily as this. 

[the_great_she_elephant]

Did not the Soviets, in 1939, having invaded the Eastern half ofPoland,  then round up and drag most of the Polish Officer Corps in into a forest, line them up in front of a ditch and shoot them in the back of the head.

They did indeed; and at the time they managed to persuade the Allies that  it was the work of  the Nazis. I have a book - a diary -  written by an English housewife (they had such things in those days) during WWll. In it she mentions the discovery of the bodies and rants about the perfidy of the Germans for daring to accuse Russia of the massacre.  It wasn't until after the collapse of the Soviet Union that Russia officially admitted the truth.

http://www.katyn.org.au/

Edited for punctuation.

[jimmy*part4]

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

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@tall_bearded01 wrote:

I sorry but I must have misunderstood the point you were making, which I assumed to be - as we in the past had turned a blind eye it’s ok do the same now, with Poland being used as an example to justify that.

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Thanks, Tall Bearded, I suspect it was partly my fault too. I should have explained myself more clearly in my first post.

Apologies, everyone - we got a wee bit off topic there. Please feel free to ...

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Actually....that was pretty cool. 🙂

[pablo12_2007]

your splitting hairs - nazis exist in all guizes, regardless how you phase it. And there is no dyniging those same tendancies in most of the incedury comments that limit insights into a universal tendancy to hate and incedentally or directly promote war and violence. Other than that what is your point - i have a whole library to read? 

We are responsible for this just as any other do-gooder is that thinks the military industrial complex is the only answer to the worlds social and at odds political and religious problems.