22-09-2014 08:59 AM - edited 22-09-2014 09:00 AM
01-10-2014 04:53 PM - edited 01-10-2014 04:53 PM
Hello, everyone.
This discussion is meandering off-topic. Could we please focus on the thread topic, "Should the Burqa be banned in Australia".
Thanks!
01-10-2014 04:59 PM - edited 01-10-2014 05:00 PM
You'd be amazed at how many people possess knowledge on subjects that others remain unaware of.
While I'm not an expert on islam, I know enough about it to understand the implications of Islamic dress codes for women.
While I don't like proscription on anyone's right to dress as they please, I am also aware of the rights of others to be able to communicate face to face and not face to mask.
I would support a ban on the face-concealing niqab but I'd far rather that women understood what this dress code is all about and decide to voluntarily give it up.
01-10-2014 05:01 PM - edited 01-10-2014 05:04 PM
I wouldn't support any ban that impacts on a woman's legal right to wear the clothing of her choice, I choose my clothing, why should I deny a woman the same right?
01-10-2014 05:08 PM - edited 01-10-2014 05:09 PM
@iapetus_rocks wrote:Well, all I can say is you are mistaken. The "offensive" pic seems to have gone now. I wonder if anyone has a screenshot, showing it and the poster's id. That would prove my case.
I am with you. It was another 'new' 0 ID poster (a serial one).
on 01-10-2014 05:35 PM
The answer to the question is found in another question.
Do you believe you the right to intrude into someone else’s private life to the extent that you can dictate to them what they wear?
That is, the question is not, do I like the apparel, nor is it, am I intimidate by it. The question is, in a free and open society do I have the right to impose my dress standards and belief on others.
To me the rounding answer is no, never!
Oh and as for those who justify a ban on the security grounds, the laws are now sufficient to allow for exactly that. That is if I have a lawful legal need to determine your identity then drop the veil. In all other circumstances you have, and should continue to have a legal right to keep it in place should you chose to do so
on 01-10-2014 06:27 PM
on 01-10-2014 06:30 PM
on 01-10-2014 07:08 PM
tallbearded: That is, the question is not, do I like the apparel, nor is it, am I intimidate by it. The question is, in a free and open society do I have the right to impose my dress standards and belief on others.
To me the rounding answer is no, never!
I agree with that.
on 01-10-2014 07:10 PM
@azureline** wrote:
Only because the person taking the statement did not make the woman identify herself. Their mistake.
Bingo!
The cop who wrote the ticket was much too slow. The alleged female returned to the cop shop with Mamdou Habib in tow. The OIC of the police station then asked the cop who wrote the ticket if he was in any way discourteous to the alleged female. At that very point the cop should have responded by saying he had no idea if the alleged female now making a complaint was the same person who received a ticket because both were covered with black material. End of meeting.
on 01-10-2014 07:19 PM
@polksaladallie wrote:Peta Credlin backs burqa ban in Federal Parliament
I could add something, but won't.
I will. If Peta Credlin want to sit on the front bench she should stand for election and get voted in if people in her electorate want her there.