22-09-2014 08:59 AM - edited 22-09-2014 09:00 AM
on 03-10-2014 01:12 PM
It does.
on 03-10-2014 01:27 PM
@channys_mum wrote:
@azureline** wrote:It is not an identification issue...... they can be asked to remove it for identification purposes
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So why then can that not apply to other head covering.
i think sooner or later with the new facial recognition
technology, face coverings will be prohibited in
a lot of public places.
many european countries already have these laws
in place - italy since the 70's.
on 03-10-2014 01:28 PM
03-10-2014 01:37 PM - edited 03-10-2014 01:38 PM
@azureline** wrote:It is not an identification issue...... they can be asked to remove it for identification purposes
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CM - So why then can that not apply to other head covering.
@*julia*2010 wrote:
@azureline** wrote:It does.
how?
2012 - The New South Wales Government has passed a law giving police the power to remove face coverings for the purposes of identification.
That includes helmets, burqa's, anything that covers the face which would prevent identification by a police officer.
on 03-10-2014 01:42 PM
Before the revised security rules were announced, Foreign Affairs Minister Julie Bishop and Attorney-General George Brandis both appeared to distance themselves from comments the Prime Minister made about the garment being confronting.
Ms Bishop agreed that people entering the Parliament should be identifiable but said that, unlike the Prime Minister, she did not find the garment confronting.
"I'm not confronted by clothing ... some may be offended by it, some may be confronted by it but in Australia we have a choice, and that's that kind of choice and society we fight to defend," she said.
on 03-10-2014 01:44 PM
I think the whole point is for migrants to obey by the law of the land regardless of their religious habits and believes.
It has nothing to do with persecution.
Before I came to Australia, my father told me firmly; "You are going to a strange land, you will have to learn the language, the customs and the laws and abide by them. Don't expect a whole country to change to accomodate your ways. You will have to change if you want to fit in and make it your new home."
If I would migrate to Saudi Arabia (for instance) and use my international Drivers Liscence to drive a car, I would be arrested and thrown in jail, because it is illegal for a woman to drive a car in that country. This is only one comparison, there are hundreds more of harsh laws that have to be obeyed by locals and strangers alike. No leniencies for ignorant tourists either.
Nobody forces people to remain in Australia if they don't like our laws.
Erica
on 03-10-2014 01:52 PM
@am*3 wrote:@azureline** wrote:It is not an identification issue...... they can be asked to remove it for identification purposes
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CM - So why then can that not apply to other head covering.
@*julia*2010 wrote:
@azureline** wrote:It does.
how?
2012 - The New South Wales Government has passed a law giving police the power to remove face coverings for the purposes of identification.
That includes helmets, burqa's, anything that covers the face which would prevent identification by a police officer.
i'm pretty sure motorbike helmets are required
to be removed completely and remain removed
while in certain places.
would be interesting for someone to prove it
to be wrong.
what are the laws in other states?
on 03-10-2014 01:52 PM
That's fine for people who choose to migrate here.................... what about those Aussie citizens who choose Islam as a Religion?
Wearing a Burqa (or any other kind of clothing) is not against the law.
and I 'm fairly sure you can't emigrate to Saudi Arabia just because you want to, their applications are quite rigid and must fit a strict criteria.
on 03-10-2014 01:55 PM
I know in banks and service stations helmets must be removed but that is the premises policy................
due to the large number of robberies and armed hold ups in the past.
Clearly not comparable.
on 03-10-2014 02:00 PM
@daydream**believer wrote:
@polksaladallie wrote:Well, it has happened. Muslim women wearing face coverings have been barred from the public galleries of parliament. They will have to sit behind glass, like criminals.
Its the same section they make school kids sit
That is because children can be noisy, and a fall from that height (if someone was being silly) would be deleterious.
Do these reasons apply to adult females?