Should the Burqa be banned in Australia

[nero_bolt]

Should the Burqa and Niqab be banned in Australia?

[polksaladallie]

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@purplecarrot-top wrote:
So some here think that because a woman wears a burqa or Nisan they pose more of a threat than anyone else?

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I think you should post a pic of your husband so we can watch out for him. 

[ufo_investigations]

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@am*3 wrote:

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@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:

I am going to start my own religion whose dress code is ballaclaver and bullet-proof vest - anyone want to join.

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A

ballaclaver

or

baklava

or 

balaclava

I hope you get the spelling right before you hand out membership applications.

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or, Baccala

What do we do? Wait until a terrorist attack happens? Australia should ban all face coverings like they did in France.

In France everything is banned! helmets, balaclavas, halloween masks, burkas etc no one was spared, it affected everyone. All facial disguises banned. You can dress how you like in your house but when in public places disguises should be banned like France. I don't care how much they complain about it, this is how it should be.

[***super_nova***]

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@polksaladallie wrote:

To those who think Pakistani women are more oppressed than elsewhere, I found a couple of pics which demonstrate that their clothing is much freer than we see here in Muslim women.

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Yes but not all women and it all depends on the region; there are many "honour" killings in Pakistan.  Which just illustrates that country that amount of oppression does not correlate with women wearing burqa.

In any case, in Australia most Muslim woman do not wear burqa or niqab; some wear hijab, and others do not cover their hair at all in their normal life - they will when they go to mosque, as many catholic woman do in church.

[karliandjacko]

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@***super_nova*** wrote:

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@polksaladallie wrote:

To those who think Pakistani women are more oppressed than elsewhere, I found a couple of pics which demonstrate that their clothing is much freer than we see here in Muslim women.

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Yes but not all women and it all depends on the region; there are many "honour" killings in Pakistan.  Which just illustrates that country that amount of oppression does not correlate with women wearing burqa.

In any case, in Australia most Muslim woman do not wear burqa or niqab; some wear hijab, and others do not cover their hair at all in their normal life - they will when they go to mosque, as many catholic woman do in church.

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Neither of the women on QandA the other week wore any head coverings and they were still attacked for expressing their views and sharing their knowledge.

[polksaladallie]

I hope you all watched the midday movie today, "To Kill a Mockingbird".

You would have noticed that in the courtroom the negroes were delegated to the upper balcony, while the main courtroom was full of white people.

That is what our government wants to do with Muslim women.  Far away so as not to cause trouble.  Muslim men, of course, will be allowed to sit with the other normal people.

[cherry*135]

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@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:

just because it hasn't happened yet - it will never happen - is that your contention.

let's put another senario - so far (as far as I know anyway) no-one has stolen a nuclear device and planted it and killed thousands - by your logic then, we should not bother checking for nuclear devices in shipping containers.

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It is not a reason to ban all women from wearing burqa's in Australia at present. A perceived threat.

What next, as pct posted.. ban knives, cars....

As Martini said, as not many people do actually wear niqab's in Australia, a male putting one on to commit a crime would be more noticeable when in the act than if he was wearing jeans & shirt.

This thread is about the burqa and ban or not ( a reason given by some that it should be banned because a male might wear one and commit a terrorist attack) its not about nuclear devices. 

[polksaladallie]

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@***super_nova*** wrote:

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@polksaladallie wrote:

To those who think Pakistani women are more oppressed than elsewhere, I found a couple of pics which demonstrate that their clothing is much freer than we see here in Muslim women.

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Yes but not all women and it all depends on the region; there are many "honour" killings in Pakistan.  Which just illustrates that country that amount of oppression does not correlate with women wearing burqa.

In any case, in Australia most Muslim woman do not wear burqa or niqab; some wear hijab, and others do not cover their hair at all in their normal life - they will when they go to mosque, as many catholic woman do in church.

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You are correct.  It does depend on the region.  Further into the country the dress is more conservative, just like it is here (in Christian women).   The hijab worn here seems very constrictive, I did not see that in Karachi.

[***super_nova***]

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@micasheen wrote:

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@azureline** wrote:

seriously? have you asked any of the burqa wearing women why they wear it?

Perhaps you think they are lying.

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I do not accuse any women of lying about anything. I am just trying to understand how western women can condone this dehumanizing garment that is an islamic edict but on them by men to dehumanize them.

I cannot defend it, no self respecting woman could, no woman could defend what this garment represents.

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I do not like burqa (I already said that back some 30 pages ago), BUT here in Australia women wear it becaus they want to, not because they are forced to.  And I defend their right to wear whatever they want.  What burqa represents to you is totally your problem. 

[rabbitearbandicoot]

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@am*3 wrote:

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@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:

I am going to start my own religion whose dress code is ballaclaver and bullet-proof vest - anyone want to join.

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A

ballaclaver

or

baklava

or 

balaclava

I hope you get the spelling right before you hand out membership applications.

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Thanks for that, I have just called the printers and corrected the spelling.

But, how did you know our diet would consist of baklava? Are you psychic?

[cherry*135]

What do we do? Wait until a terrorist attack happens? Australia should ban all face coverings like they did in France.

Should we stone women in Australia? They do that in Afghanistan.

Since when does something another country does make it right for Australia to do same?

Australia is not France. France is a secular country.. no nativity plays, Christmas celebrations in schools.. that would set some of here!

The number of niqab wearers in Australia is very low compared to the countries that have banned them. There are estimated 5 million Muslims in France, the highest number in any one country in Europe. (Pop of Sydney 4.5m 2010)

We have a Counter terrorism force and an International Terrorsim force in Australia to combat terrorism.