@spotweldersfriend wrote:
@poddster wrote:
@am*3 wrote:They will create work schemes? Demeaning type work maybe... weeding parks, removing graffiti from public places etc
Watch the unemployment figures drop, no more freebie hols
Watch the crime rate rise.
watch the suicide rate rise 
@boris1gary wrote:So do I Erica.
All the 'fundraising' and violation of the right of free speech it looks as though a Government and a whole system of Government has been illegally overthrown ie;a coup
What Next? a revolution?
reply to am*3
@boris1gary wrote:
@debra9275 wrote:6 months is too long IMO
any time delay is too long. Businesses are to be given a cash incentive to hire over 50's, yet young people are going to be punished because there is high unemployment.
Hire over 50's that are on the dole ($10 000 paid to employer).
Lots of over 50's looking for work that aren't on the dole also.
6mths is too long for a person who loses their job by no fault of their own. Those who get a job and work 1 day and quit because they don't like it is different.
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Apparently the employer does not get the $10,000 paid up front - this amount is paid over several years (which is not much of an incentive to employers as does not come close to covering wages). It has been suggested that after the 'pay out' period has finished the over 50 year old worker would be sacked. The minimum wage is probably all that this over 50 yr old would receive whilst in an unskilled job- which this Coalition is looking at dropping! The minimum wage amount at present is carp. Not all skilled/even multi-skilled over 50's can get work in their areas of expertise, as there are no *bleeping* jobs!!! Don't people get IT?!......so this is a way to 'force' over 50's regardless of their held qualifications into MORE (useless) 'reskilling' carp, where a pittance is paid, which they need in order to eat and the on the job experience is picking up rubbish, sorting rubbish at the recycling plant, building roads or planting trees for 6 months-SLAVE LABOUR baby!!......and the unemployment figures will look glorious for the Coalition because this is what this tactic is all about-helping the Coalition and their unemployment figs look brilliant-they don't give a toss about REAL JOBS. ......but wait, this is NOT a new idea.....it's ALL been done before....... AND FAILED.
Capitalist investors want to end up with more money than they started out with, but why? Is it just to live in luxury and consume? It is possible to envisage such an economy on paper. Marx did, and called it “simple reproduction”, but only as a stage in the development of his argument. By “simple reproduction” he meant that the stock of means of production was simply reproduced from year to year at its previously existing level; all of the profits would be used to maintain a privileged, exploiting class in luxury. As a result production would always remain the same and the circuit keep on repeating itself unchanged. This of course is not how capitalism operates. Profits are capitalised, i.e. re-invested in production, so that production, the stock of means of production, and the amount of capital, all tend to increase over time. The economic circuit is thus money-commodities-more money-more commodities, even more money. In order to make more money, money must be transformed into capital.
This is not the conscious choice of the capitalists. It is something that is imposed on them as a condition for not losing their original investment. Competition with other capitalists forces them to re-invest as much of their profits as they can afford to in keeping their means and methods of production up to date. They cannot act contrary to the inner nature of capitalism which requires the constant accumulation of capital and the opening of new markets throughout the world. And it cannot avoid that increasing productivity of labour which means more production for less expenditure of labour.
The capitalist claim we as workers enter a free contract and “no one is forced to do anything.” – But what planet are they on? The working class is forced each and every day into wage slavery or does money in capitalism grow on trees and all people need to do it pluck it from the branches to pay for food clothing and shelter. No, we are, collectively, compelled under the threat of poverty to sell our capacity to work – our labour power – in order to get access to those things. http://socialismoryourmoneyback.blogspot.com.au/2012/11/wage-slavery.html
