Taking mock compassion too far.

[poddster]

Ok we have had the "Poor Illegal Refugee" the "Poor Dole Bludger" the "Poor whatever" thread so now what about the "Poor Self Inflicted Addict" thread.

We may as well add them to the taxpayers  burden as well. We can cater for their "special needs" out of the bottomless pit of our national debt.

[gleee58]

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@gleee58 wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@am*3 wrote:

tougher laws including execution of known drug dealers.

Seriously that is one of your solutions? In a country that doesn't have a death penalty (for any offence).

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Seriously? Yes. If we want to get serious about the drug epidemic gripping our country, it should be re-introduced.

Because addiction to drugs like ice, meth and cocaine are the death penalty to our youth.

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Seriously?  

Are you going to say the same when your grandchild is up for execution?

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My grandson is already dying a slow death thanks to the ready supply of drugs and the vultures that are making money off his and other young aussies addiction thank you very much.

An execution would be much kinder than the misery he's going through, and the sorrow of his family.

Seriously.

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I'm sorry to hear that your grandson is experiencing an addiction problem at the moment and I hope he can get through it without too much damage and recovers to enjoy the rest of his life.  

I can't agree that execution would be a preferable alternative than living and recovering.  I'm a bit stunned that a parent or grandparent would think or say such about their own family member.   Surely he is worth more than death wishes.

Is he aware of your thoughts about his worthlessness?    

It's possible to recover from drug addiction, not from death.

[poddster]

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@j*oono wrote:

Why do you call it mock compassion, Poddster?

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Because the people who are soooo "Compassionate" would have their "Compassion" melt away like a snowball in hell when they are being bashed around the head with a cricket bat or being robbed and raped by a drug crazed self inflicted and self injected addict.

Compassion is a buzz word that is used willy nilly by people who are mere observers and are trying to elevate themselves in the eyes of others.

But when it comes to the crunch and they are the victims of a drug crazed addict do they retain their compassion?

[lionrose.7]

Gee Poddy some men do that with out even being drugged and would still feel sorry for that mans family being related to some one like that.

[the_great_she_elephant]

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@poddster wrote:

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@j*oono wrote:

Why do you call it mock compassion, Poddster?

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Because the people who are soooo "Compassionate" would have their "Compassion" melt away like a snowball in hell when they are being bashed around the head with a cricket bat or being robbed and raped by a drug crazed self inflicted and self injected addict.

Compassion is a buzz word that is used willy nilly by people who are mere observers and are trying to elevate themselves in the eyes of others.

But when it comes to the crunch and they are the victims of a drug crazed addict do they retain their compassion?

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Do refugees - illegal or otherwise - make a habit of bashing people aorund the head or rob and raping them? Your OP did not differentiate between them and drug users.

[icyfroth]

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@gleee58 wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@gleee58 wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@am*3 wrote:

tougher laws including execution of known drug dealers.

Seriously that is one of your solutions? In a country that doesn't have a death penalty (for any offence).

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Seriously? Yes. If we want to get serious about the drug epidemic gripping our country, it should be re-introduced.

Because addiction to drugs like ice, meth and cocaine are the death penalty to our youth.

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Seriously?  

Are you going to say the same when your grandchild is up for execution?

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My grandson is already dying a slow death thanks to the ready supply of drugs and the vultures that are making money off his and other young aussies addiction thank you very much.

An execution would be much kinder than the misery he's going through, and the sorrow of his family.

Seriously.

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I'm sorry to hear that your grandson is experiencing an addiction problem at the moment and I hope he can get through it without too much damage and recovers to enjoy the rest of his life.  

I can't agree that execution would be a preferable alternative than living and recovering.  I'm a bit stunned that a parent or grandparent would think or say such about their own family member.   Surely he is worth more than death wishes.

Is he aware of your thoughts about his worthlessness?    

It's possible to recover from drug addiction, not from death.

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I'm sorry you've been stunned.

I hope you can recover your senses soon.

[poddster]

In case it slipped your attention span ele this thread is about drug addicts regardless of what other category they are included in.

[bella_again]

Yes it is possible to still have compassion when you are the victim of a crime because the actions of one do not necessarily reflect the actions of many.  Drugs are a serious problem in our culture and in our communities, we need compassion but  true compassion does not mean patting someone on the head and patronising them, its far more than that.

True compassion seeks out a solution to the problem in a fair and just way while recognising the issues and challenges ahead.  People can recover from their addiction but they are still accountable for their behaviour.

[poddster]

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@lionrose.7 wrote:

Gee Poddy some men do that with out even being drugged and would still feel sorry for that mans family being related to some one like that.

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How much compassion would you feel for your assailant  as you are being beaten around the head with a cricket bat, Rosie?

[***super_nova***]

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@am*3 wrote:

Execute one or one hundred drug dealers, there will be plenty more willing to become drug dealers (for the $$)

How is that going to stop the demand for drugs?

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It won't stop the demand. But it will help stop the supply.

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Not according to statistics from the countries that have death penalty.  It dos not stop the drug supply and it does not stop people killing somebody.

You are only interested in vendetta, executing the person who supplied your grandchild is not going to solve anything.  I know some people who had kids addicted; those who gave them unconditional support and help, got them through as many rehab programs as it took, eventually got them through it.  One had really good result with Naltrexone .   People take drugs for the same reason that they drink, to drown their sorrow.  Help them to get over the pain and you are half way there.

[lionrose.7]

I would have no feelings at all, after being hit around the head with cricket bat, I would be unconscious.