The Gonski in doubt ...back to the drawing board ?

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Gonski school funding: NSW Government plans to fight changes to deal

By chief political correspondent Emma Griffiths

Updated 22 minutes ago

The New South Wales Government says it will fight any changes to the "Gonski" school funding agreement it struck with federal Labor before the election.

New federal Education Minister Christopher Pyne has said the Coalition cannot go ahead with the "Gonski" funding arrangements and will go back to the "drawing board".

He insists the total amount of money allocated to schools funding will not change, but the way in which it is delivered is now uncertain because final deals had not been signed with some states.

But his NSW counterpart Adrian Piccoli says it has a "binding agreement" that must be honoured.

"NSW expects the Commonwealth to fulfil its obligations under this agreement," he said in a statement.

"NSW will not agree to returning to the broken SES funding model. The new funding model has secured additional resources for classrooms across NSW, with the majority going to schools in most need."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-11-25/gonski-funding3a-nsw-government-plans-to-fight-changes/5114880

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@izabsmiling wrote:

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@nevynreally wrote:

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@izabsmiling wrote:

My DD's class teacher required funding approval  or the kids don't have a teacher....At the moment nothing is clear for next yr

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And, how do you know about that? Why does this teacher require funding provided by the Gonski?

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what ? beg your pardon?

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[*crikey*mate*]

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@izabsmiling wrote:

I repeat ..

At the moment nothing is clear for next yr 

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yes, I know, so why the claim that schools were depending on Gonski funding for 2014 and they had already allocated it?

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Good night ...dear 

[nevynreally]

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@izabsmiling wrote:

Nev, I did not say that it did 

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You're not very good at the whole scaremongering thing, are you?

[i-need-a-martini]

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@my*mum wrote:

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@izabsmiling wrote:

I repeat ..

At the moment nothing is clear for next yr 

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yes, I know, so why the claim that schools were depending on Gonski funding for 2014 and they had already allocated it?

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Because most schools have already allocated it. Sheesh.

If you had read any of the links I provided, you would have seen breakups of exactly what school is getting what. For example, here is one funding model they have already allocated for resources to schools with indigenous and lower socio economic groups: https://www.det.nsw.edu.au/media/downloads/about-us/plans-reports-and-statistics/key-statistics-and-...

That list was published in October and goes through EVERY single school in NSW to allocate extra funding for 2014.

It's allocated already!!

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Campbell Newman had the heads up and has closed 14 schools.

The guy is forward thinking.

[nevynreally]

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@i-need-a-martini wrote:

That list was published in October and goes through EVERY single school in NSW to allocate extra funding for 2014.

It's allocated already!!

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Yes, it's extra funding.

[i-need-a-martini]

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@nevynreally wrote:

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@i-need-a-martini wrote:

That list was published in October and goes through EVERY single school in NSW to allocate extra funding for 2014.

It's allocated already!!

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Yes, it's extra funding.

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Well isn't that the whole point?

Gonskis premise is that our public system has been underfunded for too, too long. From 2014, schools (in NSW) would be allocated extra funding (ie funding that has been sadly lacking for some time) to implement programs needed to raise our educational standards.

If that EXTRA funding doesn't occur, the our school system continues to flounder.

[nevynreally]

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@i-need-a-martini wrote:

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@nevynreally wrote:

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@i-need-a-martini wrote:

That list was published in October and goes through EVERY single school in NSW to allocate extra funding for 2014.

It's allocated already!!

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Yes, it's extra funding.

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Well isn't that the whole point?

Gonskis premise is that our public system has been underfunded for too, too long. From 2014, schools (in NSW) would be allocated extra funding (ie funding that has been sadly lacking for some time) to implement programs needed to raise our educational standards.

If that EXTRA funding doesn't occur, the our school system continues to flounder.

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I think you miss the point. Schools would have already had the funding for teachers, Gonski was for extras, not basics, yeah?

[i-need-a-martini]

What point?

I was specifically responding to mums comment so why the claim that schools were depending on Gonski funding for 2014 and they had already allocated it? and posted a link showing that schools HAVE indeed already had funding allocated to them.

Funding for the Gonski recommendations were not specific. They were targeted at schools based on 'loadings' for specific disadvantages facing individual schools. If a disadvantage is that an extra teacher is needed, then the funding can go to that. But it would need to be specific to one of the 41 recommendations in the report.

Otherwise school administration generally choose how many staff they can afford to put on at the start of the year. They normally notify teachers in January don't they?