The Quiet Australian

[icyfroth]

With the quiet Australians known for keeping their heads down and just getting on with their busy lives, it can often be hard to tell exactly what they’re thinking.

However, when they can speak anonymously, they are happy to vent - and one of the most popular places for them to do so is on the comment sections of online newspapers.

A perfect example is found at the bottom of the Daily Telegraph’s article titled:

‘Narrabri gas: Angus Taylor criticises Matt Kean – NSW Environment and Energy Minister Matt Kean has...

The article spoke about how Matt Kean said climate change was the ‘biggest challenge that will face our society and our economy in our lifetime’ and that gas was a ‘hugely expensive’ way of generating electricity – a complete contradiction of Federal Energy Minister Angus Taylor’s most recent policy prescriptions.

So, what did the humble Telegraph reader have to say about all this nonsense? Well 

lets take a quick look.

 ‘How the hell do the liberal party think Matt Kean is a good representative for us?’

‘How on earth does a green zealot hold the position of Energy Minister in a centre right Government? I cannot think of a more inappropriate portfolio appointment than Matt Kean’

‘This blokes in the wrong party’

‘This bloke Kean is either stupid or is being deliberately obtuse.
Wind & solar are only competitive because of huge subsidies and government mandates.
If the market was left to determine the best and cheapest energy without government interference I'll bet my back teeth coal & nuclear would be the choice.’

‘Out of step with his party and out of step with the public. How many times do we have to go to an election and vote these Greenies down before they respect our vote?’

That’s about right.

Poll after poll have shown that mainstream Australians are not suffering from ‘climate anxiety’ like billionaire Mike Cannon-Brookes, ‘scientist’ Tim Flannery and Mr Kean.

In fact, they have far more important things to worry about such as Australia’s increasing cost of living – a direct product of climate change hysteria undermining the efficiency and stability of what was our key industrial competitive advantage – cheap power.

Hence why last year JWS Research found in a survey of 1000 Australians that the most important issue...

• Cost of living
• Hospitals, healthcare and ageing
• Employment and wages

The environment and climate change came next.

The same survey found that on energy, 70% of Australians prioritise either energy affordability or e...

Can the people make it any clearer?

It is time Mr Kean focus on what his constituents want as opposed to what his fans on the left think – people who would probably never vote for the Coalition anyway.

One last ripper from a punter on the Tele yarn:

‘If this bloke is all about emission reductions well maybe he can fix the traffic problems in his electorate on New Line Road Dural where four lanes funnel into two.

This problem has been there all the time Kean has been the member and it is getting worse.

Maybe the minister could help fix problems in his own electorate first before saving the world seen through his eyes.

He (his party) may have got 52% of the primary vote in his electorate last election but I very much doubt this will happen next election.

Remember the NSW state LNP only needs to lose two seats in the lower house and then it would be a minority government.

https://www.advanceaustralia.org.au/this_bloke_is_in_the_wrong_party

Personally, I think those wind and solar farms are an abomination and an affront to nature.

[myoclon1cjerk]

And pumping greenhouse gasses (fossil fuels) into,the atmosphere isn't?

[icyfroth]

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@myoclon1cjerk wrote:
And pumping greenhouse gasses (fossil fuels) into,the atmosphere isn't?

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There'd be quite a lot of greenhouse gasses (fossil fuels) being pumped into the atmosphere in the manufacture of windmills and solar panels, too.

Probably made in China, who don't give 2 hoots about greenhouse gasses. What do you think China (and India)  does with all the coal it imports from us?

Speaking of hoots, there's also the destruction of birdlife and the use of farmland which would otherwise be used to grow food.

[debra9275]

fracking and mining in general also destroys farmland, wildlife habitat and food growing

[icyfroth]

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@debra9275 wrote:

fracking and mining in general also destroys farmland, wildlife habitat and food growing

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True...but it can be controlled...especially if we stop foreign mining interests and developers, who don't give a rat's backside about our land and wildlife,  from ripping up our country to send our resources overseas.

Only to manufacture junk we don't need to export back to us.

[the_great_she_elephant]

Icyfroth wrote: There'd be quite a lot of greenhouse gasses (fossil fuels) being pumped into the atmosphere in the manufacture of windmills and solar panels, too.

True, but for each windmill and solar panel it only happens once. It doesn't go on happening every time they are used. And as we increase the use of renewables, the amount of greenhouse gases produced during  manufacture will decrease

[icyfroth]

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

Icyfroth wrote: There'd be quite a lot of greenhouse gasses (fossil fuels) being pumped into the atmosphere in the manufacture of windmills and solar panels, too.

True, but for each windmill and solar panel it only happens once. It doesn't go on happening every time they are used. And as we increase the use of renewables, the amount of greenhouse gases produced during  manufacture will decrease

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True...but the windmills and solar panels don't last forever. They have a limited lifespan of 20-30  years or so. Same for solar panels.

Not to mention, they don't produce energy when the wind don't blow and the sun don't shine, resulting in blackouts. We still need coal-fired back up.

"Wind turbines do not last forever.  Small wind turbines have a highly variable lifespan depending on construction quality.  While wind turbine technology is constantly improving, even the most sturdy wind turbines still require annual maintenance and do wear out. For example, gearboxes generally need to be rebuilt every eight to 10 years."

Enough to keep those windmill manufacturers going full bore and raking in the dollars from the developed nations that are being pressured into renewables.

Did Greta Thunberg go to China or India to plead her case?

"Consequently, a turbine’s economic life is finite.  In addition, Investors often fail to budget for removal costs. North Dakota has instituted a decommissioning policy that requires new wind projects to set aside sufficient capital to remove old towers when they are no longer utilized."

https://www.ag.ndsu.edu/energy/energy-economics/faqs-1/how-long-do-wind-turbines-last

And what happens to the windmills once they are decomissioned? Do they pollute the environment in their disposal? Who's making money in the disposal?

https://www.chemicalprocessing.com/articles/2020/aging-wind-turbines-pose-recycling-challenges/

"There aren't many options to recycle or trash turbine blades, and what options do exist are expensive, partly because the U.S. wind industry is so young. It's a waste problem that runs counter to what the industry is held up to be: a perfect solution for environmentalists looking to combat climate change, an attractive investment for companies such as Budweiser and Hormel Foods, and a job creator across the Midwest and Great Plains."

[davewil1964]

Telegraph readers are hardly likely to be prone to reason.

[myoclon1cjerk]

Complains about mining companies fracking farmland, thens support the party that wants to open the country to fracking.

[myoclon1cjerk]

https://youtu.be/LpghZY_ldJU