on 11-06-2013 05:18 PM
Sorry to interrupt your no politics idea but I still find the subject important and want to rant...
How dare Gillard make abortion an election issue... There is no way that is acceptable and to even suggest that the Coalition will remove your right to one is scare mongering to the max.
In this modern day time it is incredibly important that we don't use these topics to inflame a false war.
Even if a person in any party did not like the idea of abortion there is no way that they would get the support to make it illegal. Or limit your access to one... or even make you feel bad for having one.
So if Gillard wants to launch a campaign called "Labor Women for Gillard" then fine... but don't pull out the gender card and make something out of nothing..
And personally I find it sexist to have a women's only group calling for women to support Gillard.
I have two sons and I also want their future to be positive and not forgotten but it seems that this PM only want to think of the future of women.
on 11-06-2013 10:03 PM
FN: "I didn't say anything about state laws. My comments were based around abortion not being freely available to anyone, anytime, everywhere in Aus."
That is nonsense FN, State laws control abortion within Australia, combined they are: "everywhere" Your qualifications do not make any sense at all, so let me remind you:
Abortions.
Victoria: Legal to 24 weeks. Legal post-24 weeks with two doctors’ approval.
ACT: Legal, must be provided by medical doctor.
W.A.: Legal up to 20 weeks, some restrictions particularly for under 16s. Very restricted after 20 weeks.
Tasmania An abortion law reform bill has been passed by the Tasmanian lower house in April 2013, and is awaiting debate by the state's upper house. If passed it decriminalise abortion on request to 16 weeks gestation, and after that point if two doctors approve.
on 11-06-2013 10:46 PM
Have a look at the supporters. Would you say they were representative of women, a true cross section of the female population?
It appears to me more like a "Rent-a Chick" crowd including schoolgirls, i wonder if the hire of them id taxpayer funded?
on 11-06-2013 10:58 PM
FN I suggest the Sisterhood note
Monman, I don't ever refer you to the brotherhood and I appreciate it if you would stop referring me to the sisterhood. For the sake of keeping it polite, just please stop.
on 11-06-2013 11:04 PM
FN: "I didn't say anything about state laws. My comments were based around abortion not being freely available to anyone, anytime, everywhere in Aus."
That is nonsense FN, State laws control abortion within Australia, combined they are: "everywhere" Your qualifications do not make any sense at all, so let me remind you:
Abortions.
Victoria: Legal to 24 weeks. Legal post-24 weeks with two doctors’ approval.
ACT: Legal, must be provided by medical doctor.
W.A.: Legal up to 20 weeks, some restrictions particularly for under 16s. Very restricted after 20 weeks.
Tasmania An abortion law reform bill has been passed by the Tasmanian lower house in April 2013, and is awaiting debate by the state's upper house. If passed it decriminalise abortion on request to 16 weeks gestation, and after that point if two doctors approve.
The point is it is not just a walk in walk out procedure. People must be "counselled" first and see doctors (obviously). It is not legal in all states. It is still looked down upon. Women are still made feel guilty for making the choice.
The fact is a number of the coalition members are against women having the choice.
on 11-06-2013 11:43 PM
on 11-06-2013 11:48 PM
Now THAT is a lot more picturesque:)
on 11-06-2013 11:49 PM
Are they Rent-a Chick too?
on 12-06-2013 12:10 AM
Typical cross section of women in Australia ?
on 12-06-2013 12:31 AM
Looks like a scene from a funeral oration complete with black armband highlights, everyone standing around so solemn looking. And that crumpled little sign. it all looks so sad. And it is; I just hope they learn by their mistakes.
on 12-06-2013 12:54 AM
More magic beans?? 🙂