Theism vs Athesim

[k0llectable5]

I wonder are we allowed to have a discussion on this topic.  (My mum did teach me the three golden rules of conversation but I'm choosing to ignore her teaching as I find those three topics to be most intersting, important, relevent and necessary to discuss) Especially religion. I do ask though could we please try to be tolerant of peoples views and opinions.  

ITS ONLY A DISCUSSION AND WE ARE ALL ADULTS SO PLEASE KEEP PERSONAL INSULTS, HATE COMMENTS AND THE LIKE OUT OF THIS THREAD.  IF YOU'RE NOT INTERESTED OR CANT HANDLE THIS TYPE OF DISCUSSION YOU DONT HAVE TO GET INVOLVED.  I"M SO INTERESTED TO HEAR PEOPLES VIEWS. 

So whats your view.

[the_bob_delusion]

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@azureline** wrote:

I believe in God, my OH is an agnostic.... he believes we don't have the knowledge to determine if there is a God or not.

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He is absolutely right. People who claim God exist are generally 100% certain. Those who claim Atheists say they don't know but because there's no evidence, there's no reason to believe. 

People who claim that Unicorns don't exist don't know with 100% certainty but there's no reason for them to believe they do unless the burden of proof has been met. 

I think there's a possibility God as defined by philosopher's can exist. I don't believe the bible God or Koran God exist though.  

[azureline**]

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@**freethinker_bob** wrote:

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@azureline** wrote:

I believe in God, my OH is an agnostic.... he believes we don't have the knowledge to determine if there is a God or not.

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He is absolutely right. People who claim God exist are generally 100% certain. Those who claim Atheists say they don't know but because there's no evidence, there's no reason to believe. 

People who claim that Unicorns don't exist don't know with 100% certainty but there's no reason for them to believe they do unless the burden of proof has been met. 

I think there's a possibility God as defined by philosopher's can exist. I don't believe the bible God or Koran God exist though.  

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He would agree with that..................

[the_bob_delusion]

Are you 100% certain that the bible God exist Quilts?

[azureline**]

I am as certain as I need to be.

[the_bob_delusion]

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@azureline** wrote:

I am as certain as I need to be.

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certain enough to bet your life or your kid's life on it?

[azureline**]

I don't gamble.

[the_bob_delusion]

If you're certain then it's not a gamble. 

[k0llectable5]

I would. 

But if the shoe was on the other foot would you?

Cos from what I can gather most Athiests know what they dont believe in. But what about what they do believe in. So what is it that defines an Athiest (apart from the not believing in God bit) What is it that compells a person to semanticate themselves into the label of Athiest? 

[chuk_77]

😄 why would az bet her or her kids life on something that only she needs to be comfortable believing in?

What does it matter what she or anyone else believes?

[azureline**]

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@**freethinker_bob** wrote:

If you're certain then it's not a gamble. 

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would you bet yours on your belief?