Trinity doctrine is a LIE.

For those interested, I include a link to a United Church of God site which very clearly tells of the history of the adoption of the Trinity Belief. It states what I have believed all along - that the doctrine IS NOT BIBLICAL and that ..... well, you can read for yourself.

 

http://www.ucg.org/booklet/god-trinity/surprising-origins-trinity-doctrine/

 

 

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

If I speak in the tongues of men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal.  If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. If I give all I possess to the poor and give over my body to hardship that I may boast, but do not have love, I gain nothing.

 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud.  It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs.  Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

( Corinthians 1: 13)


As I have said many times,it is pointless quoting Scripture unless you understand how all Scripture ties in.

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@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:

@i-need-a-martini wrote:

What's with all the newly created IDs flooding the boards on the same topics?


they are all the same person.


You are beginning to become arrogant .You claim you PROVED this and that.We can argue day and night on the meaning of a verse.I have asked questions which you REFUSE to answer because the answer proves you wrong.As for NO contradiction,read those 2 passages again and tell me there is no contradiction.

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@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:

@i-need-a-martini wrote:

What's with all the newly created IDs flooding the boards on the same topics?


they are all the same person.


So I will ask again.Your so called scholars claim that the crucifixion of Jesus took place on a friday.Do you agree or disagree?

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@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:

now, I'm going to watch topgear - feel free to talk amongst yourselves while I am gone ....


you ran.I told you I would PROVE your so called scholars are wrong and you ran.You want to discuss the meaning of Scripture when you know we can go around and around.1+1 always equals 2.With that alone I will prove your so called scholars are wrongYou believe them.So you believe that Good Friday is the correct day.You claim that Jesus was crucified ona Friday.Therefore I will tell you that NOTHING you say in relation to the Bible should be accepted.If you got such an easy thing wrong then why would anyone believe anything else you say?

The crucifixion was on a wednesday.That is straight from the Bible.You missed that yet want to tell us that you understand the hard parts?LOL!


ran? get off yourself. 

 

scripture only goes around and around because you refuse to admit when you're wrong. The Trinity is a LIE, and I have proven it. I have shown you dozens of scriptures that PROVE it is a LIE. I have backed it up by showing historical evidence of the way it was introduced to the Roman Pagan dictated church. The Bishops that stood against what Constantine wanted were thrown out of the discussions, accused of herisy and worse. Now, you refuse to even comment on that PROOF - not even on the last SCRIPTURE - Yes scripture that disproves the Trinity.

 

You say my sources are unreliable - my source is The Bible.

 

You say that nothing I say in relation to the Bible should be accepted - when you yourself are embarrased by the fact that I proved to you through scripture that the Trinity is a lie. If you cannot see the simplest things, why should anyone believe anything you say.


You do not understand the Bible.That is why you run from these simple questions.

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ME! arrogant? Pot / Kettle.

 

Yes, I have proved that the Trinity is a lie and you wil not admit it - even with the SCRIPTURAL PROOF that I have provided, which you either believe or deny - which is it?

 

Now, I am going to RUN again, as I have to put my son to bed, and go myself.

 

When you either admit you are wrong about the Trinity or comment on the 1 Cor scripture and debunk it, I will discuss another major subject with you - like the immortal soul, or who has gone to heaven, or Hell fire or something meaningful -  Not whether you can prove that Jesus was crusified on a Wednesday or any other day. He was crusified - He died a terrible death - that to me is enough.

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@2014eelea wrote:

@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:

@2014eelea wrote:

@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:

now, I'm going to watch topgear - feel free to talk amongst yourselves while I am gone ....


you ran.I told you I would PROVE your so called scholars are wrong and you ran.You want to discuss the meaning of Scripture when you know we can go around and around.1+1 always equals 2.With that alone I will prove your so called scholars are wrongYou believe them.So you believe that Good Friday is the correct day.You claim that Jesus was crucified ona Friday.Therefore I will tell you that NOTHING you say in relation to the Bible should be accepted.If you got such an easy thing wrong then why would anyone believe anything else you say?

The crucifixion was on a wednesday.That is straight from the Bible.You missed that yet want to tell us that you understand the hard parts?LOL!


 


You do not understand the Bible.That is why you run from these simple questions.


I never claimed I understood the whole Bible - very few people do. But I know what I believe to be true and what is false.

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@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:

ME! arrogant? Pot / Kettle.

 

Yes, I have proved that the Trinity is a lie and you wil not admit it - even with the SCRIPTURAL PROOF that I have provided, which you either believe or deny - which is it?

 

Now, I am going to RUN again, as I have to put my son to bed, and go myself.

 

When you either admit you are wrong about the Trinity or comment on the 1 Cor scripture and debunk it, I will discuss another major subject with you - like the immortal soul, or who has gone to heaven, or Hell fire or something meaningful -  Not whether you can prove that Jesus was crusified on a Wednesday or any other day. He was crusified - He died a terrible death - that to me is enough.


You claim no contradiction in those 2 pieces from UCG.In one you claim they prove that the TRINITY is a lie.In the other they claim Jesus is ETERNAL!If God the Father is ETERNAL and Jesus is ETERNAl then what does that tell you?If Jesus is NOT eternal then UCG is wrong and yet you claim they are to be believed in the other piece.And you cannot see the contradiction?

 

You run from the question of the crucifixion date because the answer proves you do not fullyunderstand the Bible and that begs the question of what else you have not understood.Your so called scholars that you put credence in all claim that He was crucified on a friday when CLEARLY that cannot be so.Yet you duck that .You duck it because you do not want to admit that you misunderstood Scripture.

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apologies, it does say eternal - Yes, it is a conflict. As I said earlier, I am not a UC person, I don't know what else they believe and I don't really care. I do agree with their expose on the TRINITY and it's historical roots.

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If you want to prove to me that the TRINITY IS TRUE, then comment on / debunk the 1 Cor scripture.

 

I AM GOING TO BED.

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@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:

apologies, it does say eternal - Yes, it is a conflict. As I said earlier, I am not a UC person, I don't know what else they believe and I don't really care. I do agree with their expose on the TRINITY and it's historical roots.


OK thank you.You posted as I did.So how can you accept anything they say when what they say appears contradictory?

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