What does the word CRISIS mean to you?

[donnashuggy]

🙂

[freakiness]

Think of it like a professional athlete - every now and then, you do get one who along with natural talent works pretty hard to achieve an olympic medal for example.

Then, just so that nobody is left out, they even hand out medals to people who didn't even enter the race...

It sort of takes the incentive away from giving things your best effort, eh?

Where does this happen?

Who gets the medal for coming last or not entering the race?

A few examples would help when generalising in such a way.

[froot_loopz]

crisis is having to listen to julia, the tv is in danger.

the tv would consider this a crisis. I consider it therapy

[*crikey*mate*]

Crikey I think you are looking at it wrongly, labor is not communism, it was always socially responsible for the week and those that couldn't look after them selves through a welfare system.

But still supported capitalism, in recent years they seem to have lost some or most of its social conscience and only seem interested in playing the big hero on the world stage while ignoring its own poor.

Hmm sounds a little like the US   

Probably am looking at it wrong, and always happy to learn 🙂

I know they're not communism oriented per se - maybe I used the wrong words - I was thinking along the lines of equal distribution regardless of effort etc.

I do like that we have a pretty reasonable welfare system - I'm not against that at all, I'm not sure how to word it, I guess, but I do believe in a parallel but distinct meritocratic system as well.

People want equality etc, so I don't see why we have so many different tax brackets for example - why should Johnny pay a higher percentage of his earnings than Mary does?

I don't see why some should contribute more to the medicare system than others - I dunno, but it just seems to me that the more a person earns, the more reasons they find to take his money off him and redistribute it.

*shrugs*

[*crikey*mate*]

LNP - follow a system of meritocracy where effort and success are encouraged.

Do you mean an effort to take from the poor and give to the rich? Without Labor and good unions the minimum wage would be more like the USA.

How do they take from the poor and give to the rich?

It seems to me that it is the rich that pay a higher percentage in tax, that it is the rich that pay a higher percentage of their earnings for health care, for education, for near on everything if we want to be pedantic.

A rich person is more likely to buy say a BMW than a Hyundai, so even there, even though it is their choice, they still contribute more to the tax system through GST.

[purple.cow]

  I dunno, but it just seems to me that the more a person earns, the more reasons they find to take his money off him and redistribute it.

That's what makes the game of working out ways of preventing the extra money those higher earners receive being handed over more interesting and sporting. 😉

Gotta have something interesting to fill your days up with :^O

[donnashuggy]

How do they take from the poor and give to the rich?

Many ways, if they had their way they would bring back Workchoices - that is a clear example, the workers would be exploited while the rich get richer.

[the_hawk*]

Probably am looking at it wrong, and always happy to learn 🙂

I know they're not communism oriented per se - maybe I used the wrong words - I was thinking along the lines of equal distribution regardless of effort etc.

I do like that we have a pretty reasonable welfare system - I'm not against that at all, I'm not sure how to word it, I guess, but I do believe in a parallel but distinct meritocratic system as well.

People want equality etc, so I don't see why we have so many different tax brackets for example - why should Johnny pay a higher percentage of his earnings than Mary does?

I don't see why some should contribute more to the medicare system than others - I dunno, but it just seems to me that the more a person earns, the more reasons they find to take his money off him and redistribute it.

*shrugs*

Cricky a person cant avoid paying income tax but the the rich can easily avoid paying GST by not spending their money that way they will be equal to the poor and have nothing to show for their efforts or complain about 😉

[*crikey*mate*]

Are you suggesting that all this talk about crisis and disaster coming from the LNP is akin to the Nazi party?

You could be on to something there.

Natural Disasters were blamed for the recent insurance crisis - I just spent a semester studying that insurance crisis and we didn't have one - we were just told we did. The insurance companies chose to insure people at a certain cost - instead of managing their money to ensure they could survive a mass claim, the knee jerk reaction was to hike up premiums.

In reality, it was two or three insurance companies that went belly up - this led to less competition for the survivors - so an open door to increase premiums.

Sort of like our water rates - for years we paid money into a system for the supply and sustenance of our water supply. Instead of planning ahead and managing the money wisely, one day the coffers were bare along with the dams and they impose penalties and restrictions on us now for water usage as they scrabble to build desalination plants, more dams and install pipelines...

Dictionary Definitions: I've got one word - mysoginist

and no - no connection to the Nazi party - just a similar kind of strategy to what they used re  the Treaty of Versailles - scaremongering and propaganda  - so we follow along blindly and accept without question. It's not restricted to one party or leader, they all do it - it's how they market their agendas.

[donnashuggy]

It seems to me that it is the rich that pay a higher percentage in tax,

It seems to me that there are huge advantages of being rich, one of them is tax avoidance.

[*crikey*mate*]

How do they take from the poor and give to the rich?

Many ways, if they had their way they would bring back Workchoices - that is a clear example, the workers would be exploited while the rich get richer.

So you disagree with managerial prerogative then?