What would it take to stop you getting on a leaky boat?

[donnashuggy]

To me the fear of drowning might stop me, you would have to be extremely desperate wouldn't you?

[*crikey*mate*]

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@***super_nova*** wrote:

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@meh_too wrote:

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We go in circles because both sides of this debate think they are right. Nor is it not hard to figure out -   the money is coming from their family members already here that our government kindly gives them for nothing...  although  its nowhere near $1k a week or all the other perks aforementioned.  

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refugees accepted for settlement get the dole like anybody else; they do not get house furniture or anything else from the government.  they do get 3 month accommodation in housing commission house/flat for which they pay rent, and then they are on their own.  If they get any help it is by charities, which provide second hand furniture and other basic needs.  That is stuff that we discarded.  if people already here pay the smugglers to bring their family members, they are not paying it from the dole.  To be able to get that sort of money together they would have to work.

Actually, i would like to see some numbers to see the % of new arrivals who are on the dole, and how long it takes on average to get work.  Considering that refugees are desperate to work, and will do anything , I am quite sure that it does not take very long before they have jobs.

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I know a business that was recently (last year) raided by the Federal Police who "employed" 17 people who were either not supposed to work or earn over a certain anmount (don't know why), but they did and accepted cash in hand wages. They weren't "Australians", I know nothing iother than that. I was told they were here illegally, in what capacity I don't know, and I have no proof of those claims anyway.

[azureline**]

so, why repeat it? if it may not be true...............

[polksaladallie]

Either there's a full moon, or there is a new rule that you read every second post and don't see what is glaringly obvious.

[twinkles**stars]

 I read the posts. I asked you a question to which you replied 'after my swim'.

You obviously posted something that can't be backed up. Ok....

[izabsmiling]

had it been done for you in #43 ? 

[izabsmiling]

maybe not...that wasn't TS's question ?

[izabsmiling]

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@polksaladallie wrote:

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@boris1gary wrote:

ashjoma, I don't understand, what sugar?

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I'm sure you know......free house, free car, free furniture, $1,000 a week.........

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did your tongue come out of your cheek during your swim Allie 

[polksaladallie]

I'll make it very simple.

Post 8 was a tongue-in-cheek post

Post 9  I answered in the same vein (the kudoers saw the joke)

Post 11  Another poster who "got it"  (kudoers got it also)

Clear now? 

The reason for all of these posts is that a large group of the population thinks that the asylum seekers get the "sugar" (post 2 for example) and the shock jocks milk that incessantly.

[meh_too]

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@***super_nova*** wrote:

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@meh_too wrote:

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We go in circles because both sides of this debate think they are right. Nor is it not hard to figure out -   the money is coming from their family members already here that our government kindly gives them for nothing...  although  its nowhere near $1k a week or all the other perks aforementioned.  

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refugees accepted for settlement get the dole like anybody else; they do not get house furniture or anything else from the government.  they do get 3 month accommodation in housing commission house/flat for which they pay rent, and then they are on their own.  If they get any help it is by charities, which provide second hand furniture and other basic needs.  That is stuff that we discarded.  if people already here pay the smugglers to bring their family members, they are not paying it from the dole.  To be able to get that sort of money together they would have to work.

Actually, i would like to see some numbers to see the % of new arrivals who are on the dole, and how long it takes on average to get work.  Considering that refugees are desperate to work, and will do anything , I am quite sure that it does not take very long before they have jobs.

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http://www.immi.gov.au/media/publications/research/_pdf/settlement-outcomes-new-arrivals.pdf

This document will tell you that up to 60% of refugees are still on  the dole after 5 years.   

[polksaladallie]

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@meh_too wrote:

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http://www.immi.gov.au/media/publications/research/_pdf/settlement-outcomes-new-arrivals.pdf

This document will tell you that up to 60% of refugees are still on  the dole after 5 years.   

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I haven't read your link, but I have seen other figures which state that they "receive Centrelink benefits".  Do you realise that this term includes health care cards, education allowances, baby bonus, etc, which they would get if they were working, and which most other Australians receive.  It does not necessarily mean only unemployment benefits.