What would you call?

[go-tazz]

A Cocker Spaniel crossed with a pedigree Terrier.

[go-tazz]

I certainly agree with the each to their own but have reservations about some,(I've seen a Pitt Bull in action

attacking a calf that was 80 metres away and which attacked a second time after the owner went and got

it back).

That same dog was later destroyed for attacking an elderly person,(we argued about that happening after it

attacked the calf),

But a lot of it has to do with the owners at times as some are clueless on how to bring up a dog in a

socially acceptable manner.

My OH is the dog person and they all love her to bits,(she used to have cats as well).

[go-tazz]

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@bushies.girl wrote:

Sandy is right, we all have certain breeds we prefer to own    .... I own GSD's, would never buy a x bred one, too many probs re temperament    ...... I also prefer to own either large breed or working  dogs

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We used to manage a pub in SA when the owners had to travel to Adelaide on a regular basis and they had

two GSD and I had always been petrified of them as I had been bailed up on two separate occasions by GSD's

when I was younger.

To start with they wouldn't let me in the door and the owners and  my OH had to get them to accept me but

they wouldn't let me anywhere near my OH as she had visited them on a regular basis,(they were used to 

sleeping on the beds and slept between us).

They did accept me in the end and would "protect" me when anyone tried to open the adjoining door

between the pub bit and the residential area,

We now prefer the smaller breeds as we just don't have the room for a larger dog.

[***super_nova***]

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@go-tazz wrote:

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I've never been a fan of any "pedigree" dog as they all had to be a mixture of something else to start with.

Someone saw a market for them,the same as the current designer dogs who are no more entitled to that

tag than our dog has

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Well, not really, most breeds were bred for particular purpose, and the type was created mainly by geographic limitation.  That is why so many breeds are named after location.  Purebred dogs had particular characteristics, both physical and temperament, for which they bred true = their puppies not only looked like their parents but also had the same temperament/abilities that was required for the purpose they were bred for.  And people only bred from the best performing animals.  That is why usually when you get a retriever, it will retrieve, if you get a border collie it will herd, and if you get one of the breeds bred to fight they will be much more likely to fight than poodle. 

With mix breed you will never know what it inherited from where, especially if it comes from long line of crossbred dogs.  The designer dogs are often created by people who have absolutely no knowledge or understanding of genetics and put together anything that they think might look good.  I wish people would stop being so gullible, they pay thousands of $ for pups mass produced in atrocious conditions from poor **bleep**es that spend their whole life in cage (kennel run) with only human contact being kennel maid feeding them and cleaning out their run. 

[bright.ton42]

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@***super_nova*** wrote:

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 atrocious conditions from poor **bleep**es that spend their whole life in cage (kennel run) with only human contact being kennel maid feeding them and cleaning out their run. 

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And they're the lucky ones!    the majority of dogs on puppy farms spend their whole life in a filthy rot-sodding cage standing on wire so their waste goes through it, kept  in the dark,   and one breeding after another until they become ill or die or are disposed of. And let's not forget the physical abuse....so their spirit is broken and they become cringing wrecks.  No exaggeration here as I have worked with rescues from such places.  I don't know how their puppies survive to be sold, except that they are taken away from the poor mum very quickly and she is bred again.

At the same time I have worked with many 'designer' and cross breeds and found them delightful., so presumably they come from responsible breeders?   .  

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@bright.ton42 wrote:

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At the same time I have worked with many 'designer' and cross breeds and found them delightful., so presumably they come from responsible breeders?   .  

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No, that just means they are a lucky accident, but if somebody has a female as a family pet and mates her to friend's dog who is also lovely family pet, there is a good chance that the pups will be lovely too, especially if brought up in family with kids.  And I firmly believe that is the best way to breed dogs.  Puppy farms should be closed down.  The pups that come from pet shops are bred on puppy farms and nobody can know what dogs in those circumstances are really like.  And the problem is that the people who buy the designer dogs are often people who should not have a dog to start with; they buy a dog as a status symbol; 50 years ago they would have bought an Afghan hound, bit later on OES, and so on, whatever happened to be fashionable. 

[sandypas]

That's one good thing in Victoria - pet shops are no longer allowed to sell pets. 

[bushies.girl]

Any breed can be like that go tazz, comes down to breeding and basic training when they are young ....

Prob with many "designer dogs" is they are usually not bred with pure bred stock eg 5 generation pedigree for each parent, so what you end up with are x's of x's of x's, thus you dont know what breed they really are ..... If people only want a x bred dog as a pet, that fine, not everyone wants to own a pedigree dog, I just cant understand why they pay $1000's for a mutt

[kilroy_is_here]

A mungral 

[bright.ton42]

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@sandypas wrote:

That's one good thing in Victoria - pet shops are no longer allowed to sell pets. 

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Now if only  Gumtree would be banned from selling dogs or even free to good homes as so many end up as dog fighters.

[***super_nova***]

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@sandypas wrote:

That's one good thing in Victoria - pet shops are no longer allowed to sell pets. 

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When did that happened?  I have only recently signed a petition about Passion for Pets shop that was selling obviously sick puppies.