When is Racism not racism.

[the_bob_delusion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfpADBQZfUE

I've seen this ad a few times now. I don't think the ad gets its point across. How is it discrimination against just indigenous is a stretch? Just cause the person feel like they've been discriminated because they're indigenous doesn't make it so. You can look suspecious with your hands tucked into your sleeve regardless of your race. Plus that woman frankly just look white to me. And some women simply prefer not to sit next to man on a bus. The last guy just look mediteranian to me even though the only bit related to the indigenous is the "ab0" joke. 

I get the point they're trying to make on the ad but it just ends up mocking the indigeous for being cry babies. I don't like this ad. 

[k0llectable5]

I'll even go one step further in that it's not just about respecting the differences but also (imo) allowing those that are different to yourself the right to be proud of their culture, heritage, history, bloodline, family and homeland.  I think all people deserve the right to all of these basic human rights, if they so choose to favour their own race above all others 🙂

Thanks for your comments Az, I always appreciate your input into these types of discussions.

[bushies.girl]

Most of the docs in my general area are from another country, mainly 'cause it's difficult to get Aussie docs to come and work in the "bush"

[channys_mum]

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@bushies.girl wrote:

Most of the docs in my general area are from another country, mainly 'cause it's difficult to get Aussie docs to come and work in the "bush"

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Same here bushies girl

Mind you we are all growed up now and have a good mix.

Channy's favourite doctor is Pakistani, and she will wait a day to see her (well as long as she isn't half dead from the durge)

[channys_mum]

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@secondhand-wonderland wrote:

I'll even go one step further in that it's not just about respecting the differences but also (imo) allowing those that are different to yourself the right to be proud of their culture, heritage, history, bloodline, family and homeland.  I think all people deserve the right to all of these basic human rights, if they so choose to favour their own race above all others 🙂

Thanks for your comments Az, I always appreciate your input into these types of discussions.

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Totally agree,and it must cut both ways.

Also it must be in keeping with the laws of the land in which they choose to live.

If this was the way people chose to live (and how hard can it be), then there would be no racism.

[ambercat16]

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@channys_mum wrote:

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@village_person wrote:

Is t his racism:

Indigenous All Stars game returns in February

The NRL has confirmed the Indigenous All Stars game will return to the rugby league calendar in 2015 at a meeting with club CEO's today at Rugby League Central.

ETC. 

Are non aboriginals selected to play in the Indigenous All Stars?

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I would assume not, BUT, that should not be a problem, it is their right to have their own team. It would be the same as the all blacks in NZ. Am I right in assuming the all blacks are a maori team.

At the same time would it be considered racist to have an all whites team. In my opinion it should not be.

It would be a bit hard to have a strictly white Aus team, there arn't enough of them to form a team 

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No, the All Blacks are not a Maori team.....but there is a Maori All Blacks team and a Black Ferns team (womens rugby - also not all Maori although some are)

[the_bob_delusion]

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@channys_mum wrote:

Funny how the band wagon becomes empty once common sense and a few facts hop on.

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Yeah, kinda boring when everyone agrees with me. 

[the_bob_delusion]

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@***super_nova*** wrote:

There one thing that I really hate is when people say:  "stop being a victim".  Blaming the victim is the lowest of low. 

OK, Australia may not be the most racist country in the world, but that does not mean that there are not many racists here.  Most of the time people do not express their racism outright, it is more subtle.  But it really came to the surface when Pauline Hanson was in a full flight; at that time I was too ill to drive, and it was amazing the conversation I overheard & incident I witnessed on the public tranport practically on daily basis. 

Even here in this topic,  somebody above said that the lady in the shop is "not all that dark"!!!  ????  So?  She was obviously aboriginal and I bet my bottom dollar she is watched when she comes to shops more than white woman, and the white woman will get a job ahead of her, and ahead of a foreigner.  I would hate to be a young Muslim in this moment, and looking for a job would be 100x more difficult than for other Australian kids.

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I don't know how to take your post. Are you supporting people being victims???? Victims mentality; in which a person tends to regard him or herself as a victim of the negative actions of others, and to think, speak and act as if that were the case - even in the absence of clear evidence. It depends on habitual thought processes and attribution. What's your point???

Racism does exist but it doesn't follow that everyone discriminate because of race. I don't get any of your points to be honest???

She is so not obviously aboriginal. I can discriminate her for plenty of reasons other than her not so obvious race. So if the indiginous isn't even close to being the main discriminatee, this ad is utterly discriminatory if you're asking me. We really should target the real people being discriminated against the middle easterns and the Asians, right?

[the_bob_delusion]

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@secondhand-wonderland wrote:

Thanks for sharing your point of view Nova.  With me though it wasn't really a conscious choice (at the time) it was just more something I felt inside that urged me toward those similar to myself.  It's not until I've matured and realized there is something important (to me) about being white and loving it and being proud of it. White pride does not mean white suppremacy...jmo

To be racist means that when you look at a person the first thing you notice what colour their skin is, and attach importance to it.

That is such a true statement.  But imo it's only a bad thing if you look and judge the colour and then place yourself or your race on a higher level somehow.

And I dont believe we were all black once.  If I can find the vid I'll post it but in several articles/vids I've seen scientists speak of three different human skull types.  The Mongoloid, Negroid and Caucasoid.  These are three distinct types of human skull that have been studied.  And I personally believe that we've all more likely come from one of these three...

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Hmmm, maybe you should study anthropology? 

[*elizabeths-mum*]

"Because pure and simply that is the race I am more attracted to Doesn't mean I'm repulsed by the others, I just favour white people because I feel like they are my people."

I wonder if your preference would be questioned if you were indigenous?

Re the video, I am hopeless at picking who is what nationality and wouldn't have known if any of those were indigenous. I've also had the same look from shopkeepers and job interviewers.

[***super_nova***]

For many years I used to go to  American board, and got to know many on the people there well.  Or so i thought.  We all knew who we are in real life; it was a board for our hobby, and we talked about our common interest, and got to know each other quite personally, and I liked and respected them. 

Soon after Obama was elected there was a totally serious discussion started on "how black is Obama, and is he too black or not enough"!!!!???  It went on and on, over days and hundreds of posts.  Nobody was insulting or nasty, but just the idea that it was important, turns my stomach.  I followed the topic for a while, being totally incredulous.  I am sure none of these people realised how racist  they are are.