on 09-11-2015 10:33 PM
on 10-11-2015 04:04 PM
http://www.refinery29.com/2015/11/97131/iranian-actress-hijab-instagram
the woman of Iran dont have a choice. Their choice was taken away from them in 1979
on 10-11-2015 04:23 PM
Are we talking about Australia or worldwide? Most young women I know don't feel either oppressed by or bullied into wearing bikinis and I suspect the very small number of Australian Muslims who wear the burqa don't feel oppressed by or bullied into wearing it either. The real question, in both cases, is: has anybody actually bothered to ask them?
on 10-11-2015 04:43 PM
on 10-11-2015 05:39 PM
Are we talking about Australia or worldwide?
the scenario presented in the op appears
to be taking place in a free society - so
theoretically, none of the ladies (persons)
would be feeling oppressed ?
12-11-2015 12:24 AM - edited 12-11-2015 12:26 AM
In a free society, people should be able to make their own choices about what they want to wear.
The problem with the niqab is that it a dress form which comes highly recommended by the male followers of a certain religion.
Oh, don't get me wrong. The male members of that religion would never wear it themselves, it would cover up their macho beards.
No, that identity-concealing fashion of dress is only imposed on the women. Impostition need not be physical; it can be social, coming from the society and even from relatives and friends. and it can also come from communty leaders or representatives of religion.
There is a certain pressure to conform, with certain penatlies to be paid for non-conformity, although here in Oz, we don't expect those penalties to be as drastic as they are in some other countries.
But sometimes we are shocked when they are.
I support freedom. freedom of expression and freedom of dress. I'm still having a little trouble supporting the right of any person to walk the street wearing a mask so I cannot see their face.
For those of you who support the right of people to do this, I'd ask you how you would feel if there were a religion which encouraged its male members to wear a mask in public and that the women were not encouraged to?
it's just an excercise in thinking about attitude. Well, how would you feel?
on 12-11-2015 01:31 AM
I'd ask you how you would feel if there were any cultural group in Australia which encouraged its male members to wear a mask in public and that the female members were not encouraged to?
12-11-2015 01:54 AM - edited 12-11-2015 01:55 AM
Those of you who support the right of people (you can't be sexist about this, can you?) to walk the streets while wering a mask, must support the right of every person to do this, even if they are a member of a bikie gang or a policeman or a politician.
Imagine being arrested by a person whose face you couldn't see on the orders of a politician whose face you couldn't see and sentenced by a judge or magistrate whose face you couldn't see.
How would you feel?
on 12-11-2015 09:51 AM
@johcaschro wrote:Those of you who support the right of people (you can't be sexist about this, can you?) to walk the streets while wering a mask, must support the right of every person to do this, even if they are a member of a bikie gang or a policeman or a politician.
Imagine being arrested by a person whose face you couldn't see on the orders of a politician whose face you couldn't see and sentenced by a judge or magistrate whose face you couldn't see.
How would you feel?
Great question.
on 12-11-2015 06:23 PM
12-11-2015 07:58 PM - edited 12-11-2015 08:00 PM
@johcaschro wrote:Those of you who support the right of people (you can't be sexist about this, can you?) to walk the streets while wering a mask, must support the right of every person to do this, even if they are a member of a bikie gang or a policeman or a politician.
Imagine being arrested by a person whose face you couldn't see on the orders of a politician whose face you couldn't see and sentenced by a judge or magistrate whose face you couldn't see.
How would you feel?
Do you seriously believe a Muslim woman who joined the police force would be permitted to walk the beat in a burqa?
come to think of it, I've never seen a policewoman - or a judge - wearing bikini either.