on 14-02-2021 10:54 AM
Why do people live beyond their means, especially those on welfare?
Sure, people can spend money on whatever they want but how many times have you seen people who are supposedly struggling financially with nice phones/clothes ordering at takeaways/restaurants when they should be saving and eating at home.
How about those who have children to feed, yet they're happy to spend their welfare money on alcohol and ciggies?
Can poor people justify spending money on non-essentials?
15-02-2021 05:25 PM - edited 15-02-2021 05:27 PM
on 15-02-2021 05:39 PM
Just an up..................if you break the cigs in half - they last twice as long.
on 15-02-2021 06:22 PM
@not_for_sale2025 wrote:
@the_bob_delusion wrote:The real point here is that it is none of your business. These people make their own decisions on what they choose or choose not to buy. The last thing they need is to be judged by some shallow dude in front of a computer who doesn't give a damn about their personal struggles. God help them if they are a woman, don't shave their legs and watch pornography too.
If they maked there own money, then you was right, I shouldn't cared. If they are lived off welfare and my tax payer's money, I do care what they spend their money on. Do you cared how your tax contribution money are spent?
And you are a fine, upstanding tax payer, are you Bob? Perhaps you should list the reasons why you think you are, so we can judge you?
Judge all you like. It's an open discussion forum.
on 15-02-2021 06:57 PM
@the_bob_delusion wrote:And you are a fine, upstanding tax payer, are you Bob? Perhaps you should list the reasons why you think you are, so we can judge you?
Judge all you like. It's an open discussion forum.
LOL.
on 17-02-2021 07:05 AM
@bidicus*maximus wrote:Here in the US we have "foodstamps" so that folks don't have to go hungry. (Though these days, it's on a debit card instead of an actual, "stamp"... still, the charity money can only be spent on groceries, not fast food or dining out)... and we also have many charitable "food pantries" where the down and out can go to pick up free food directly.
Perhaps something similar could be worked out for the other necessities... for instance, instead of receiving cash, recipients receive vouchers that require landlords and utility providers to bill a government agency in order to collect their payments. I don't know about you down there, but we already have such assistance for housing, if a person qualifies.
Cash for drugs, alcohol and cigarettes is probably not a good idea. These things are bad for the health and the poor are usually already on public health assistance. We should all strive to keep those costs down.
If such programs were in place then all could be assured that if they saw one of the poor dining out, for example, the money that they were spending came from doing odd jobs, panhandling, or some other form of gift and NOT from the pocket of the taxpayer.
Really? Doing odd jobs is a form of GRIFT? Do you live in the real world?
on 17-02-2021 07:17 AM
@lalbo-81 wrote:
@bidicus*maximus wrote:Here in the US we have "foodstamps" so that folks don't have to go hungry. (Though these days, it's on a debit card instead of an actual, "stamp"... still, the charity money can only be spent on groceries, not fast food or dining out)... and we also have many charitable "food pantries" where the down and out can go to pick up free food directly.
Perhaps something similar could be worked out for the other necessities... for instance, instead of receiving cash, recipients receive vouchers that require landlords and utility providers to bill a government agency in order to collect their payments. I don't know about you down there, but we already have such assistance for housing, if a person qualifies.
Cash for drugs, alcohol and cigarettes is probably not a good idea. These things are bad for the health and the poor are usually already on public health assistance. We should all strive to keep those costs down.
If such programs were in place then all could be assured that if they saw one of the poor dining out, for example, the money that they were spending came from doing odd jobs, panhandling, or some other form of gift and NOT from the pocket of the taxpayer.
Really? Doing odd jobs is a form of GRIFT? Do you live in the real world?
GIFT
on 17-02-2021 08:30 AM
@Anonymous wrote:
@lalbo-81 wrote:
@bidicus*maximus wrote:Here in the US we have "foodstamps" so that folks don't have to go hungry. (Though these days, it's on a debit card instead of an actual, "stamp"... still, the charity money can only be spent on groceries, not fast food or dining out)... and we also have many charitable "food pantries" where the down and out can go to pick up free food directly.
Perhaps something similar could be worked out for the other necessities... for instance, instead of receiving cash, recipients receive vouchers that require landlords and utility providers to bill a government agency in order to collect their payments. I don't know about you down there, but we already have such assistance for housing, if a person qualifies.
Cash for drugs, alcohol and cigarettes is probably not a good idea. These things are bad for the health and the poor are usually already on public health assistance. We should all strive to keep those costs down.
If such programs were in place then all could be assured that if they saw one of the poor dining out, for example, the money that they were spending came from doing odd jobs, panhandling, or some other form of gift and NOT from the pocket of the taxpayer.
Really? Doing odd jobs is a form of GRIFT? Do you live in the real world?
GIFT
Considering the source, my bet is GIFT was a typo. lol!
on 17-02-2021 08:56 AM
@lalbo-81 wrote:
@Anonymous wrote:
@lalbo-81 wrote:
@bidicus*maximus wrote:Here in the US we have "foodstamps" so that folks don't have to go hungry. (Though these days, it's on a debit card instead of an actual, "stamp"... still, the charity money can only be spent on groceries, not fast food or dining out)... and we also have many charitable "food pantries" where the down and out can go to pick up free food directly.
Perhaps something similar could be worked out for the other necessities... for instance, instead of receiving cash, recipients receive vouchers that require landlords and utility providers to bill a government agency in order to collect their payments. I don't know about you down there, but we already have such assistance for housing, if a person qualifies.
Cash for drugs, alcohol and cigarettes is probably not a good idea. These things are bad for the health and the poor are usually already on public health assistance. We should all strive to keep those costs down.
If such programs were in place then all could be assured that if they saw one of the poor dining out, for example, the money that they were spending came from doing odd jobs, panhandling, or some other form of gift and NOT from the pocket of the taxpayer.
Really? Doing odd jobs is a form of GRIFT? Do you live in the real world?
GIFT
Considering the source, my bet is GIFT was a typo. lol!
I know the source better than you think you do. You would lose your bet. lolz.
on 17-02-2021 09:18 AM
on 17-02-2021 09:30 AM