Why is Bureau of Met manipulating data re Cyclone Marcia ?

vicr3000
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Why is Bureau of Met manipulating data re Cyclone Marcia ?

 

They said it was a Cat 5 cyclone, yet all the wind speeds, sustained and gusts show that it was only a Cat 3.

In addition, the pressure level never got down to a Cat 5.

 

And regardless of the better building codes compared to Darwin/Tracy in 1974, the damage was no where near a Cat 5.

For a start, the trees still had leaves on them. In all the Cat 5 cyclones in the last 30 years, no trees had leaves

left on them.

 

In addition, "Data for Middle Percy Island has disappeared from the BOM site, but Jennifer Marohasy kept a copy.

(I’m sure the BOM will be grateful!)..."

 

Have a read of this.

 

http://joannenova.com.au/

 

 

IN ADDITION

 

It seems some of the media outlets wewre dissapointed that the damage wasn't worse. That was the impression I got.

Almost like Disaster porn.

 

Any comments ?

 

 

 

 

 

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Remember, the first rule of the global warming hysterics - if actual real world met readings disagree with your computer models then the real world readings should be either be ignored or 'adjusted' until they match the computer models..

 

 

Cyclone Marcia was a Cat 5 based on Computer modelling.

 

 

Smiley LOL

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@vicr3000 wrote:

Did they ever say that we would get two cyclones at once ?


Nothing unusual about two cyclones at once.



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So, when is BOM & the HRC getting shut down? And the ABC, and all Fairfax newspapers etc....

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Where is the enquiry into the BOM?  I must have missed the answer.

Still can't find any information that confirms the BOM tampered with data about the cyclones either. 

 

 

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Cyclone Marcia was a Cat 5 based on Computer modelling.

 

 


Such predictions are made for the purpose of warning, and therefore need to err on the side of caution.  

 

 

Actually, weather forecast is reasonably accurate most of the time.  Of-course, it is not spot on for every place.  The BOM never claims that something "will happen", they say it is a "probability" or "possibility".  As far as forecast of the possibility of bad fire season; well, we were lucky, but people in Adelaide & WA would not agree  with you that it was not.  The reason people did not die this summer (at least i do not think anybody died) was because people did not stay when the fire approached.  But houses were destroyed and many animals died.

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A friend made a comment that the last cat 5 cyclone that passed near to Darwin,
His kids went out playing in it.

He also has the view that they 'up' the category levels.



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I have been trying to find data, that supports that Cyclone Marcia was a Cat 5 at some stage.

 

I can only find info that supports a very weak Cat 3 if that.

 

 



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I thought I found one wind speed gust that went higher than Cat 3, I wish I could remember where I read it.

But like you, Cat 3 is what most people seem to think and what the data supports.


I want to find the data again for the Island off the coast.

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The other aspect, the BOM says cyclones normally increase by one Cat level a day.
this one jumped 3 - 4 levels in 24 hours. Unheard of.
Apart from the higher sea temp than normal, nothing seemed to be special about this cyclone
From the data that was recorded.
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The BOM’s latest tracking image at 10pm. Picture: Bureau of Meteorology

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