Wonder what the preppers are doing

[esayaf]

I'm buying more bullets. Can see Trump causing big trouble ahead once he is in the Whitehouse

[fo-trut]

What do you think of Alex Jones endorsing Trump? I appreciate YouTubers like Jones for what they do but I just can't trust everything he says... I have been enjoying the videos made by some of the infowars journos from the rallies around the country though. It's funny when they approach the Trump protestors and ask them why they think Trump is racist etc. I'm on my phone atm so can't paste any vids but will find some later. There's a video made by infowars and it shows a young female Trump protestor literally punching and old guy in the face. Thank goodness for YouTubers like them to expose the truth. In response to the op, I've had very little experience with firearms, but I've actually considered getting some lessons and a license in recent times... I could probably shoot my son's compound bow to save my life though.

I don't like Alex Jones. There's alot he was right about, but more and more recently, he has shown his true colors. The things he is dead wrong about, he refuses to even look into and investagate. I am suspicious about why he came out against Trump but shortly after started supporting him. Thinking maybe he was bought off. He has became so offensive that whenever I get board enough to actually click onto a recent show or the nightly news, I cross my fingers hoping that it's not him doing the show, anyone but him. Like Trump he comes off as a bigot, and if that's the real Jones or the real Trump, I want nothing to do with eather.

I've been watching The Young Turks and like much of what I see there. Even though I totally disagree with them on gun issues, I can watch them without getting sick to my stomach. I would not recomend subscribing to anything on YT, buying their products or sending money, there's just too much to see for free and there's really no reason to.

Depending on where you live, I would be careful about getting any kind of gun liscense or regestration / permit. It's getting so much easyer for agencies to keep track of those they believe might be a gun owner and those people are being targeted for raids, and basically they look for any reason to tag those people as a criminal to take away their gun rights. When sheriffs or other cops go after gun owners, losing your guns and gun rights may be the least of your worries. They have taken homes and ruin lives. Nothing wrong with training with guns and learning about them, just do it off the record if possible.

[ambercat16]

@fo-trut wrote:

...............Depending on where you live, I would be careful about getting any kind of gun liscense or regestration / permit. It's getting so much easyer for agencies to keep track of those they believe might be a gun owner and those people are being targeted for raids, and basically they look for any reason to tag those people as a criminal to take away their gun rights. When sheriffs or other cops go after gun owners, losing your guns and gun rights may be the least of your worries. They have taken homes and ruin lives. Nothing wrong with training with guns and learning about them, just do it off the record if possible.

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you do know you are posting on an Australian site don't you?

[this-one-time-at-bandcamp]

you do know you are posting on an Australian site don't you?

Thus the inanity I alluded to earlier...........

It sounds like fo-tut is advocating obtaining illegal weapons.

[fo-trut]

you do know you are posting on an Australian site don't you?

Yes, I post on other forums too. And I happen to know not all Australians hate guns. I was giving advice after asked, relating to what I have seen and know of the world going back from recent to distant history.

It sounds like fo-tut is advocating obtaining illegal weapons.

Not a good idea to openly collect guns in my opinion, better to not have guns at all and not risk losing your home and every thing else. But if you do have to have guns, better to keep them secret. That's all I was saying and it's the truth no matter where in the world you happen to be. It's sad, but that's the hard reality. People who are against guns are tyrants who want to control other's lives. They are sadistic and want to punish gun owners by calling cops on them who for the most part likes guns as well and see this as an oppertunity to take them for themselves. Cops steal guns cars and houses using the excuse that the lowlife gun criminal don't deserve to even have a home and shouldn't be driving. I have to wonder who the real criminal even is.

People in Australia have just as much a right of self defense as anyone else in the world. Because some give up this right wilingly, don't mean the right is lost for all. You rights can't be taken only violated and that is true for the right to speech and privacy. The gun control laws are a clear violation of the right of self defense, any laws saying a gun must be regestered or you need a permit is a clear violation of the right of privacy, and to say I can't warn others about such things is a violation of the right to free speech.

[jimmy*part4]

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@fo-trut wrote:

you do know you are posting on an Australian site don't you?

Yes, I post on other forums too. And I happen to know not all Australians hate guns. I was giving advice after asked, relating to what I have seen and know of the world going back from recent to distant history.

It sounds like fo-tut is advocating obtaining illegal weapons.

Not a good idea to openly collect guns in my opinion, better to not have guns at all and not risk losing your home and every thing else. But if you do have to have guns, better to keep them secret. That's all I was saying and it's the truth no matter where in the world you happen to be. It's sad, but that's the hard reality. People who are against guns are tyrants who want to control other's lives. They are sadistic and want to punish gun owners by calling cops on them who for the most part likes guns as well and see this as an oppertunity to take them for themselves. Cops steal guns cars and houses using the excuse that the lowlife gun criminal don't deserve to even have a home and shouldn't be driving. I have to wonder who the real criminal even is.

People in Australia have just as much a right of self defense as anyone else in the world. Because some give up this right wilingly, don't mean the right is lost for all. You rights can't be taken only violated and that is true for the right to speech and privacy. The gun control laws are a clear violation of the right of self defense, any laws saying a gun must be regestered or you need a permit is a clear violation of the right of privacy, and to say I can't warn others about such things is a violation of the right to free speech.

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"But if you do have to have guns, better to keep them secret."

Great advice! Commit a felony, lol! 

[this-one-time-at-bandcamp]

better to not have guns at all and not risk losing your home and every thing else.

The conspiracy theorists have been saying that for decades..........why is it taking so long?   Better yet, provide credible links to support your allegations, and I don't mean InfoWars or Jesse Ventura you tube videos.........Both have been shown to be liars.

I've had guns since the mid-60's, never once has the long arm of the law come knocking at my door to confiscate my weapons or boot me out of my house.  I won't deny that individuals who commit felonies or violate the RICO statutes are subject to forfeiture of their possessions.......but blowing through a stop light just earns you a citation, not a visit by the "gestapo".......

[fo-trut]

Better yet, provide credible links to support your allegations

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKkUG1F2JiI

You love the cops why would they take your guns, you already warship them. If cops take issue with you watch how fast they take away your house and all in it and on the property, of corse after keeping you in jail for as long as the can.

Lots of people who have done nothing wrong have had their guns taken, and sometimes their houses and more. There's a number of ways cops can do this that involve lying. They can pick you up without arrest and have you declared mentally unfit, no doctor working for the state would dispute them on that, they know where their pay comes from. They can arrest you multiple times on falsified charges giving you a criminal history. You will never pass a background check to buy a gun. They can make your life such a hell until you decide it's not worth it to have any gun, like they did with me.

I won't go in the sporting goods or toys section of Walmart now, because of what they did to John Crawford in Beaver Creek Ohio.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUcFFxC87Y0

[this-one-time-at-bandcamp]

They didn't do anything to Crawford..........the 9/11 caller did.......

[fo-trut]

They didn't do anything to Crawford..........the 9/11 caller did

That would be Ronald Richie, and yes, he played a part in it, as did Walmart. But it was not him, or Walmart who killed the man. That would be the cops who just like Tamir Rice and in the same state, never gave him the chance to live. From the time cops got there, there was nothing he could do that would have prevented those cops from shooting him. Their minds were made up.

BTW, that Walmart is having people trespassed from all Walmart stores if they so much as bring flowers to lay at the place where Crawford was killed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSRlgChFjso - 5:55

Oh just found this-

Walmart Closes After John Crawford III Protest in Beavercreek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BK0PEOrEz90

[this-one-time-at-bandcamp]

In this day and age, police aren't going to play games with someone armed.........and in this day and age, an individual carrying a weapon, particularly a black man, should know better.

You can claim to your heart's desire that they were going to kill him no matter what...........but you and I will never know.