can atheism work without God and what would that society be like?

[best.buys]

without a moral lawgiver [God] in a true atheistic society with all the evolutionary doctrine acceptable. if then everybody's view/point/understanding is then relative

would rape be legal?

killing off those who are a burden to society, the handicapped, blind, down syndrome be encouraged?

what about the elderly?

infanticide?

and would gays be worse off since they don't contribute to mans upward evolutionary struggle?

to who's standard would society look to?

since so many posters on here don't like God so much have you truly considered what would happen?

this one's for you bob or at least in reverse to your normal topics.

[tasfleur]

Dinner time, back later, but thanks for starting the topic Gav., I always like your threads.

[the_great_she_elephant]

since so many posters on here don't like God so much have you truly considered what would happen?

Gav you can't dislike something you don't believe exists. For me to 'not like' God would be the same as 'not liking' Santa or the tooth fairy.

don't you think the "restraints" that Christianity brings would make that society worse?

I presume you mean without the restraints.

I don't think the restraints enforced Christianity were particularly good for society in the past and I don't think anyone could argue that the restraints imposed by Islam are currently of much benefit to Islamic societies.

a true atheistic society with all the evolutionary doctrine acceptable.

Evolution is not a doctrine that dictates how we should live. It is merely the process by which we came into existence.

[best.buys]

"don't like God" you may not ellie but many do just look back over many posts.

so why in a atheistic society were every point is relevant since their is no right or wrong can I not have you "swimming with the fishes" is not the moral restraints that prevents that.

evolution is a faith based belief, has doctrines, leaders, followers even a few could be classed as gods or swamis 

[para-sights]

Atheism would not mean a lapse in moral judgement. In fact free of the constraints of religion it would be able to re evaluate and lessen laws that had previously been made under the church that has no application in modern society. Indeed we have done just that over the years to give everyone an equal standing in society. A society without god doesn't mean a fascist or dictatoral rule (even under communism rape was illegal). 

[best.buys]

ha-ha really funny para-sights, ever heard of stalin or hitler try watching the history chanell for awhile and see what happens in a society without God. south Africa, china what about about Rwanda? all those hacked to death or those starving to death as we read this in north korea. ask a jew about restraint.

but you missed the point there is no morals in atheism we are pond scum eveloved to a higher order.

and who deciedes on these moral restraints in this atheistic society of yours, you? those who right on these boards? white people?

and what do you do with those who have an opposite and equally valid point of view in your atheistic society?

[tasfleur]

"Evolution is a faith based belief"

I'm not sure that evolution could be described at a faith based belief Gav, but I'm willing to listen to what you believe may constitute that.

I would describe evolution as science based and at the very least, in comparison to religions, in many cases, tangible.

[tasfleur]

Having said that, I do believe there is a "Universal Creator" of evolution, but not in the way religions would want it.

[best.buys]

its called the theory of evolution not the fact of evolution and it changes. so you have faith that the theory is right.

its a science that continually gets caught out in lies. remember Lucy the missing link and every other missing link that has been held up as truth has been a fraud. remember fred flintstone sliding down the brontosaurus, I had brontausarus toys as a kid. its not in the modern dino books because it was a fake.

[best.buys]

albert Einstein was an atheist until he really had a look at the then new big bang theory because he then realised that the universe had a start or a cause, so what caused the cause.

[Anonymous]

~even the topic title is stupid. as LL pointed out. I mean just lol @ can atheism work without god.