icac's and inquiries

[davidc4430]

its not hard to see why govts are loath to start inquiries or build a true ICAC

history shows often its those who start them who suffer the most

Chris Eccles, Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews' top bureaucrat, resigns after hotel quarantine inquiry requests phone records

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-10-12/premier-daniel-andrews-dept-head-chris-eccles-resigns/1275361...

dans got himself in a mess, no amount of hand washing will get the dirt off his hands

in NSW gladys is in a similar situation

the spin doctors will be earning their keep these next days/weeks

[davidc4430]

the media can find the most unflatering photos

Hot takes on Gladys Berejiklian's 'sex scandal' abound — but it's worth digging deeper than the reactions

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-10-17/gladys-berejiklian-icac-sex-scandals-and-women-in-politics/12...

[icyfroth]

Same goes...she may have made mistakes, but what she is doing is working.

[freddie*rooster]

Regarding Glady's woes it's amazing how the majority of her colleagues

and the liberal backers want to use how she handled the bushfires and

covid crises to badger support for her current crisis. The fires and covid

have nothing to do with this ICAC inquiry. She was complicit and stood 

to share the spoils of his dodgy dealings when as has been acknowledged

by them both the relationship was to become a permanent one.

She knew he was corrupt. Her excuse to continue the affair for 2 years after

his sacking she claims was because he was in a dark place. That excuse

doesn't pass the pub test. She is not fit to continue as Premier and has shown

herself as a weak questionable leader.

[not_for_sale2025]

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@icyfroth wrote:
@debra9275
Which proves Chameleon's point about blind faith...

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No it doesn't. What it suggests is Victorians have wisened up to the agendas of the media and the PM. It's clear to them that Daniel Andrews is being relentlessly attacked because he's a Labor Premier. If anything it has highlighted how dumb and blind some Liberal supporters are because they just can't get it. Suckers.

[myoclon1cjerk]

Why no federal ICAC?

https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/national/2020/10/17/federal-icac-australia/

[lyhargr_0]

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@imastawka wrote:

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@debra9275 wrote:

actually, it doesn't..  most people are making up their own minds about what they know and see for themselves, they don't need the media to tell them what to think or who they should vote for..  Victorians are smarter than that

perhaps it's the daily Andrews press conferences where we've seen a lot of disparity between what's been said and what's been reported

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I think you're right Debra.

I highly doubt anyone from interstate would bother to sit through Dan's press conferences every day to see what's what.

Non-Vics would just be reliant on the printed reports

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Not true, many people living near the Vic/SA are interested in what he has to say each day, mainly 'cause it affects them, their families, their health,  their employment etc etc 

[icyfroth]

@not_for_sale:
Some ppl only feel they've "wisened up to the antics of the media" when it goes against their their mindset.
If the "antics of the media" are with them, they call it"facts"

[debra9275]

  says someone who continually quotes newscorp and a Russian propaganda paper, The Duran

personally i read everything and make up my own mind

[debra9275]

did anyone else notice Angus Taylor's name come up in ICAC yesterday??

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/oct/17/louise-waterhouse-met-with-top-officials-and-...

Three federal infrastructure department officials and federal MP Angus Taylor separately met with Louise Waterhouse while she lobbied for potentially lucrative changes to her vast landholdings near the Western Sydney airport.

[imastawka]

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@lyhargr_0 wrote:

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@imastawka wrote:

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@debra9275 wrote:

actually, it doesn't..  most people are making up their own minds about what they know and see for themselves, they don't need the media to tell them what to think or who they should vote for..  Victorians are smarter than that

perhaps it's the daily Andrews press conferences where we've seen a lot of disparity between what's been said and what's been reported

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I think you're right Debra.

I highly doubt anyone from interstate would bother to sit through Dan's press conferences every day to see what's what.

Non-Vics would just be reliant on the printed reports

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Not true, many people living near the Vic/SA are interested in what he has to say each day, mainly 'cause it affects them, their families, their health,  their employment etc etc 

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Bit pedantic Lyh.

Of course if they live close to the border they would be interested.

Don't think i.e Cham lives close to the border though