on 27-02-2021 01:30 PM
Doe the Freedom of speech give us the right to offend? Do you support the freedom of speech, even if it may offend someone?
How do you deal with topics or speech you find offensive?
What's the difference between free speech and hate speech? Aren't they the same thing but you just find one that doesn't agree with your view?
”In order to think , you need to risk being offensive” Jordan B peterson. Do you agree with him?
NB: we're only talking about speech, not a call for violence/action.
Go.
27-02-2021 01:33 PM - edited 27-02-2021 01:34 PM
We don't have Freedon of Speech (unless you are a poli)
27-02-2021 01:36 PM - edited 27-02-2021 01:36 PM
How come nobody ever argues out why free speech is a good or desirable thing.
PS Jordan Peterson is just another lowlife grifter, but I can't describe him in any more detail than that withoiut being offensive.
Mind you, he's a walking offence in himself.
27-02-2021 01:40 PM - edited 27-02-2021 01:41 PM
We don't have ther freedom of speech in Australia.
Check our Constitution.
Only the right to say something, but then it comes with consequences - ie lawsuits for libel / slander
on 27-02-2021 01:46 PM
You are posting on the forum for eBay Australia so your topic is null and void
Next
on 27-02-2021 01:50 PM
Conclusion
Offense. We have a choice. We can take it or leave it. Although there are multiple reasons we choose to take offense, some of which are listed above, we still have a choice. There is autonomy with our feelings. We have the right to feel and the choice to choose our response. To take or not to take?
on 27-02-2021 01:51 PM
I think free speech is a good idea.....provided it doesn't lead to violence. Some people are over the top on what they believe or oppose.
My pet hate (but I suppose it is free speech of some kind) is the useless posting of comments by trolls. Whether for or against, they rarely have anything to actually contribute to topics. Getting themselves noticed is their aim. The topic is probably irrelevant to them.
Hate speech is a prickly topic. Some see hate where the speaker might not have meant it to be. Something that is obviously hateful however is better off not said. Frankly I'd prefer to stay out of arguments like this were the protagonists are unlikely to ever agree.
on 27-02-2021 01:56 PM
@the_bob_delusion wrote:
"NB: we're only talking about speech, not a call for violence/action."
"But the human tongue is a beast that few can master. It strains constantly to break out of its cage, and if it is not tamed, it will run wild and cause you grief. Unknown"
The problem is that we cannot control how others may respond to our speech. Look at what happened at the US Capitol following Trump's infamous speech. Saying it's only speech is gullible and naive. History shows words can be very powerful, especially when spoken by a beast who can master them.
on 27-02-2021 02:02 PM
@the_bob_delusion wrote:Doe the Freedom of speech give us the right to offend? Do you support the freedom of speech, even if it may offend someone?
How do you deal with topics or speech you find offensive?
What's the difference between free speech and hate speech? Aren't they the same thing but you just find one that doesn't agree with your view?
”In order to think , you need to risk being offensive” Jordan B peterson. Do you agree with him?
NB: we're only talking about speech, not a call for violence/action.
Go.
I support freedom of speech. This is a right we have. However we should use it responsibly. Often under the guise of free speech, people have used it to promote racism and religious hate such as against Jews or Muslims. This is because lies, slants and distortions are used and not fact.
BTW: Eric Blair was a very wise man.
on 27-02-2021 02:05 PM
@4channel wrote:I support freedom of speech. This is a right we have. However we should use it responsibly. Often under the guise of free speech, people have used it to promote racism and religious hate such as against Jews or Muslims. This is because lies, slants and distortions are used and not fact.
BTW: Eric Blair was a very wise man.
Pay attention. We don't have that right in our constitution.