" Freedom is the right to tell people what they don't want to hear. " George Orwell

[the_bob_delusion]

Doe the Freedom of speech give us the right to offend? Do you support the freedom of speech, even if it may offend someone?

How do you deal with topics or speech you find offensive?

What's the difference between free speech and hate speech? Aren't they the same thing but you just find one that doesn't agree with your view?

”In order to think , you need to risk being offensive” Jordan B peterson. Do you agree with him?

NB: we're only talking about speech, not a call for violence/action.

Go.

[the_great_she_elephant]

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@icyfroth wrote:
But how do you know that's true?

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I don't. I believe it to be to be true - and therein lies the difference. A belief, however sincerely held,  is not the same thing as an 'uncomfortable truth.'

[domino-710]

Good grief - not only the US - but now the UK.

Police can truthfully say they acted on information given by sources they believe to be credible - they then have to ' prove ' that information to be correct - to stand as evidence in a Court of Law.

Word of mouth - as we all know is - Hearsay.

[the_great_she_elephant]

4channel wrote: Some may say very convinient.

And I'm sure some do, but saying it does not necessarily make it true.

[icyfroth]

Except I don't think Tony Blair was entirely truthful.

[the_great_she_elephant]

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@icyfroth wrote:
Fake news and forgeries are nothing new. Police only report on information given them.

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My second link was to a coroner's report. 

[icyfroth]

@ She-el "saying it does not necessarily make it true".

That's the whole point.

[icyfroth]

It may well have been a clotted artery, and the coroner's report may well have been true.
But what caused it?

[the_great_she_elephant]

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@icyfroth wrote:
@ She-el "saying it does not necessarily make it true".

That's the whole point.

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Perhaps not, but it would mean that the police, the coroner and all the pathologists involved in conducting the autopsy were either grossly incompetent or engaged in a deliberate conspiracy to hide the truth. On the blaance of probabilities I'd go with that being highly unlikely.

[the_great_she_elephant]

https://www.yalemedicine.org/conditions/blood-clots-in-veins-heart-and-lungs

Coronary thrombosis can occur when arteries become clogged with cholesterol and fat, making it difficult for blood to flow through.

Additional risk factors for blood clots include:

• Obesity
• Pregnancy
• Sitting for extended periods of time
• Smoking
• Oral contraceptives
• Injury or surgery
• Age (increased risk for people over age 60)
• A family history of blood clots
• Chronic inflammatory diseases

[icyfroth]

Yes, could be anything, right?