" Freedom is the right to tell people what they don't want to hear. " George Orwell

[the_bob_delusion]

Doe the Freedom of speech give us the right to offend? Do you support the freedom of speech, even if it may offend someone?

How do you deal with topics or speech you find offensive?

What's the difference between free speech and hate speech? Aren't they the same thing but you just find one that doesn't agree with your view?

”In order to think , you need to risk being offensive” Jordan B peterson. Do you agree with him?

NB: we're only talking about speech, not a call for violence/action.

Go.

[4channel]

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@twyngwyn wrote:
oops....I thought you were for a 'totalitarian society'?

What am I not understanding from your posts?

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No I'm not for a totalitarian society.  What I am for people to have health freedom and not be subjected to harm from mega corporations. How can this be a desire for totalitarianism?

[twyngwyn]

what I'm getting from you is that we should all think like you (in our best interests) and there is really no point in having a discussion, because you do not want one??

[4channel]

Are you sure? I don't think so. I'm not part of that clique that haunts a certain board.

[twyngwyn]

Yes I'm sure....and neither am I (part of a clique)... am posting under my one & only name...have my own thoughts & ideas...you either need to find a better argument/better explain or give up

[katistrophik]

What clique ?

And I also only have this id now, closed my original buying one years ago, and the selling one was in the name of my business partner at the time, no idea why some think there is a conspiracy

Not @ you twyn, just sayin'

[the_bob_delusion]

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@joztamps wrote:

How come nobody ever argues out why free speech is a good or desirable thing.

PS Jordan Peterson is just another lowlife grifter, but  I can't describe him in any more detail than that withoiut being offensive.

Mind you, he's a walking offence in himself.

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Feel free to be offensive. We're adults, we can handle it. What has Jordan Peterson said that you found offensive?

[the_bob_delusion]

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@imastawka wrote:

We don't have ther freedom of speech in Australia.

Check our Constitution.

Only the right to say something, but then it comes with consequences - ie lawsuits for libel / slander

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"Everyone has the right to freedom of expression. This right shall include freedom to. hold opinions and to receive and impart information and ideas without interference by. public authority and regardless of frontiers."  Australia law reformed commission

"The Australian democracy has at its heart, the following core defining values:

• freedom of election and being elected;
• freedom of assembly and political participation;
• freedom of speech, expression and religious belief;
• rule of law; and.
• other basic human rights."

Just because it's not explicitly said in our constituion doesn't mean it is the case. 

[the_bob_delusion]

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@davidc4430 wrote:

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what do you think it means?

[the_bob_delusion]

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@repentatleisure1952 wrote:

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@the_bob_delusion wrote:

How do you deal with topics or speech you find offensive?

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I just reply with " a new low...smh".

And then the topic magically disappears.

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What do you find offensive? and why?

[joztamps]

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@4channel wrote:

Actually within Nineteen Eighty-Four is a warning about the false left vs right paradigm. Orwell's message (some say prophecy) was neither for the left nor right. In actual fact, both the left and the right wing are tools that would build a totalitarian society that he warned of.

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Orwell was a thorough-going man of the left, a socialist who spent his whole life working for political and social progress.

He would be absolutely appalled at the way the right wingers who he loathed co-opt and wilfully misrepresent his views in order to stymie that progress.