"It's Not Even a Debate"!

[icyfroth]

Prime Minister Scott Morrison has claimed the date of Australia Day should not be changed despite fierce debate over the issue in recent years.

Many Indigenous leaders have been pushing for the date of Australia Day to be moved from January 26, the date that marks the First Fleet landing in 1788 and the beginning of British colonisation.

A new survey released by the Institute of Public Affairs on Monday said despite the debate, 71 per cent of Australians were in favour of keeping the date as is.

The poll found the 71 per cent believe “Australia has a history to be proud of” and “Australia Day is an authentic way for Indigenous and non-Indigenous Australians to celebrate being Australian”.

On Monday morning Sunrise breakfast show co-host Samantha Armytage grilled Mr Morrison over whether he agreed with the results of the poll or if he thought the date should be changed.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/scott-morrison-shuts-down-sam-armytage-australia-day-question-015251182.ht...

Good on him!

[myoclon1cjerk · Accepted solution]

https://www.nwfc.gov.au/observations-and-recommendations/chapter-1-host-landowner-negotiations

[johcaschro · Accepted solution]

It's not common sense; it's nonsense.

The 16% is just a made up number, represented as fact = duplicitous.

"Are the regular contributors to these forums who oppose coal mining willing to accept a 16% reduction in their wages / social security payments / standard of living plus a tripling of their electricity bill on top of the 16% reduced income in order to have coal mining and exports banned ?"

This is a false dichotomy.  

There is no reason to guess that any pension or wage  would reduce by this (fictional) 16%. There is no reason to guess that electricity bills would triple.

Cost of living might rise a little, but where is the evidence for it rising by 16%?

[davewil1964 · Accepted solution]

We've already established that whilst coal accounts for 16% of our exports, it only accounts for 3 or 4% of GDP.

It seems to be a habit of political creatures to bend statistics when they don't have real arguments for a particular position.

[myoclon1cjerk]

It's a big habit if you happen to listen to Sky News, Jones, Hadley and the rest of the nutters.

[davewil1964]

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@myoclon1cjerk wrote:
It's a big habit if you happen to listen to Sky News, Jones, Hadley and the rest of the nutters.

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I don't. But the left has the same tendency.

[lyhargr_0]

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@myoclon1cjerk wrote:
It's a big habit if you happen to listen to Sky News, Jones, Hadley and the rest of the nutters.

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The Jones I watched was one of the few I have seen really standing up for the farmers and demanding the current government do something to help them asap

If that being a "nutter", then I am all for nutters

[myoclon1cjerk]

Fair enough. His father was a farmer and coal miner. Does he support Adani?
He's also defamed people and been successfully sued, promoted violence against women (Gillard & Ardern) and made inflammatory comments leading up to the Cronulla riots.
Climate denier, a bigot and a liar. Not to mention his activities at a certain school.
He's all yours and you're welcome to him.

[icyfroth · Accepted solution]

Alan Jones probably supports mining wherever it doesn't pollute agriculture or impact the environment. He comes out very strong in support of the farmers.
As to his comments to and about Ms Gillard and Ms Ardern, I thought them in poor taste, and not becoming of a respected broadcaster.
As to his sexuality, well, we wouldn't want to be seen as homophobic, now would we?

[k1ooo-slr-sales]

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@icyfroth wrote:

As to his comments to and about Ms Gillard and Ms Ardern, I thought them in poor taste, and not becoming of a respected broadcaster.

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what you call "poor taste" I call offensive.

[debra9275]

As to his sexuality, well, we wouldn't want to be seen as homophobic, now would we?