"Some Lives Don't Matter"

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and white people killing white people

A killer is a killer black or white

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chameleon wrote: And " black lives matter " is simply a catchcry coined deliberately by the left wing radicals in an attempt to divide rather than unite, to separate rather than integrate and basically " bait " what they see as the other side.

 

WRONG! It is a plea for justice from a section of society that has been demonised, marginalised, and discriminated aganst for generations. 

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@lionrose.7 wrote:

and white people killing white people

A killer is a killer black or white


Actually, I was quoting facts. Ask yourself who does more harm to blacks. It's the blacks. By the way I'm referring to African American blacks. I don't have the facts on aboriginals here but I suspect that Muslims and Asians are worser off than them here in Australia in their treatment overall. 

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I can get facts as well, more white men are serail killers then black men

 

The most people that kill white people are white people

 

I want even go on about which race is more likely to kill their wife and children

 

 

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Dont pick on me for spelling it is late here LOL

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

chameleon wrote: And " black lives matter " is simply a catchcry coined deliberately by the left wing radicals in an attempt to divide rather than unite, to separate rather than integrate and basically " bait " what they see as the other side.

 

WRONG! It is a plea for justice from a section of society that has been demonised, marginalised, and discriminated aganst for generations. 


You mean the homeless or those with mental illness or people from low socio economic backgrounds ??? Because In Australia those with mental illness face much higher rates of incarceration than Aborigines and the last person shot dead by police a few weeks ago in Australia was experiencing a mental health episode. It was nothing to with the colour of their skin.. 

 

To denigrate and vilify those who believe " all lives matter " including the lives of the homeless, genuinely poor people and those with mental health issues as WRONG shows your true colours. You would rather put a catchy American phrase before any principles of true equality and genuine support for those who are truly oppressed here in Australia. How shallow can you get.  Its a very sad reflection of what you really stand for elle.   I truly thought you where better than that !

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@lionrose.7 wrote:

Every living thing on Earth Matters BUT the people who are NOT treated  like humans are the ones that matter most at the moment.

 

We bleed red Blood, we all should be treated equally.

 

I dont know why people are hang up on skin Colour, perhaps it is just the way I was bought up


And what is the truth here in Australia about deaths of Aborigines in our prison system ?

 

2015–2017: In a Statistical Report looking at prison deaths between 2015 and 2016, the AIC reported that death rates of Indigenous prisoners "[had] been consistently lower than death rates of non-Indigenous prisoners since 2003–04". The death rate in 2015–2016 was 0.18 and 0.23 per 100 respectively,[32] and in 2016–2017, 0.14 and 0.18 per 100 respectively.[33]

 

source - wikapedia ... aboriginal deaths in custody.

 

The Australian Institute of Criminology reports clearly show that since 2003, ( and further reading shows its actually since 1991 )  indigenous Australians are dying in prison at SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER RATES than non indigenous Australians.

 

We are constantly fed this mantra by left wing extremists that Aborigines are dying at much higher rates than non indigenous Australians in our corrective facilities when the opposite is actually the case. NON INDIGENOUS AUSTRALIANS HAVE A MUCH HIGHER DEATH RATE IN OUR PRISON SYSTEM THAN INDIGENOUS AUSTRALIANS. ( around 25% higher in fact ) Which begs the question, if authorities have been so successful in lowering what was once a higher death rate amongst aborigines in our prison system, why cant they put the same effort into lowering the death rate among non indigenous inmates ?   

 

Just another example of why " all lives should matter equally " and in Australia there are often more pressing needs in non indigenous, minority communities than indigenous ones, despite the lies and distorted truths we are constantly being told by left wing extremist groups.

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@chameleon54 wrote:

@lionrose.7 wrote:

Every living thing on Earth Matters BUT the people who are NOT treated  like humans are the ones that matter most at the moment.

 

We bleed red Blood, we all should be treated equally.

 

I dont know why people are hang up on skin Colour, perhaps it is just the way I was bought up


chameleon54 wrote:

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And what is the truth here in Australia about deaths of Aborigines in our prison system ?

 

 

We are constantly fed this mantra by left wing extremists that Aborigines are dying at much higher rates than non indigenous Australians in our corrective facilities when the opposite is actually the case. NON INDIGENOUS AUSTRALIANS HAVE A MUCH HIGHER DEATH RATE IN OUR PRISON SYSTEM THAN INDIGENOUS AUSTRALIANS. ( around 25% higher in fact ) Which begs the question, if authorities have been so successful in lowering what was once a higher death rate amongst aborigines in our prison system, why cant they put the same effort into lowering the death rate among non indigenous inmates ?   

 

Just another example of why " all lives should matter equally " and in Australia there are often more pressing needs in non indigenous, minority communities than indigenous ones, despite the lies and distorted truths we are constantly being told by left wing extremist groups.


Yes but what you have to look at is what percentage of the population Indigenous Australians are. Total numbers are 25% more for non Indigenous which includes Arabic, Caucasian Anglo Saxon, Caucasian Slavic etc.., Asian, Polynesian, South Sea Islander, Arabic, Indian etc., etc..

 

In relation to the size of the Aboriginal community, they are by far the worst victims.

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@chameleon54 wrote:

@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

chameleon wrote: And " black lives matter " is simply a catchcry coined deliberately by the left wing radicals in an attempt to divide rather than unite, to separate rather than integrate and basically " bait " what they see as the other side.

 

WRONG! It is a plea for justice from a section of society that has been demonised, marginalised, and discriminated aganst for generations. 


You mean the homeless or those with mental illness or people from low socio economic backgrounds ??? Because In Australia those with mental illness face much higher rates of incarceration than Aborigines and the last person shot dead by police a few weeks ago in Australia was experiencing a mental health episode. It was nothing to with the colour of their skin.. 

 

What part of A section did you not understand. would it have helped if I had said ONE section?

 

To denigrate and vilify those who believe " all lives matter " including the lives of the homeless, genuinely poor people and those with mental health issues as WRONG shows your true colours. You would rather put a catchy American phrase before any principles of true equality and genuine support for those who are truly oppressed here in Australia. How shallow can you get.  Its a very sad reflection of what you really stand for elle.   I truly thought you where better than that !

 

Are you really that naive, or are you being deiberately obtuse? Of course all lives matter -and  over the years I have personally attended rallies and functions called to address homelessness, poverty, varius types of cancers and mental healh issues. But  guess what - at none of those functions did anyone feel obliged to turn up waving an "All Lives Matter' banner, nor did they  take to  social media to accuse those who attended of displayng elitism.

 

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@4channel wrote:

@chameleon54 wrote:

@lionrose.7 wrote:

Every living thing on Earth Matters BUT the people who are NOT treated  like humans are the ones that matter most at the moment.

 

We bleed red Blood, we all should be treated equally.

 

I dont know why people are hang up on skin Colour, perhaps it is just the way I was bought up


chameleon54 wrote:

in reply to lionrose.7

 

 

And what is the truth here in Australia about deaths of Aborigines in our prison system ?

 

 

We are constantly fed this mantra by left wing extremists that Aborigines are dying at much higher rates than non indigenous Australians in our corrective facilities when the opposite is actually the case. NON INDIGENOUS AUSTRALIANS HAVE A MUCH HIGHER DEATH RATE IN OUR PRISON SYSTEM THAN INDIGENOUS AUSTRALIANS. ( around 25% higher in fact ) Which begs the question, if authorities have been so successful in lowering what was once a higher death rate amongst aborigines in our prison system, why cant they put the same effort into lowering the death rate among non indigenous inmates ?   

 

Just another example of why " all lives should matter equally " and in Australia there are often more pressing needs in non indigenous, minority communities than indigenous ones, despite the lies and distorted truths we are constantly being told by left wing extremist groups.


Yes but what you have to look at is what percentage of the population Indigenous Australians are. Total numbers are 25% more for non Indigenous which includes Arabic, Caucasian Anglo Saxon, Caucasian Slavic etc.., Asian, Polynesian, South Sea Islander, Arabic, Indian etc., etc..

 

In relation to the size of the Aboriginal community, they are by far the worst victims.


@4channel, please view the copy and paste from the Australian Institute of criminology report. The figures quoted where a percentage, based on a per 100 prisoners basis. They clearly show that indigenous inmates suffer around 25% less deaths per 100 indigenous inmates than deaths per 100 non indigenous inmates. Pre 1991, indigenous prison inmates where dying in disproportionately higher numbers than non indigenous inmates. 

 

What this clearly shows is that over several decades extensive reviews and changes have been made to reduce death rates in indigenous prisoners, but the same efforts have not been made for the non indigenous prison population.

 

Previous links in posts I have made also show that prisoners with diagnosed mental health issues make up 49% of the prison population, while indigenous prisoners make up 28% of the prison population. While there will undoubtedly be some people who match both groups, mental health illness is a much larger problem regards incarceration than being indigenous and those with mental health issues are dying at greater rates in prison per 100 inmates than indigenous prisoners.

 

All of which illustrates the simple view I have expressed all along. All lives matter and here in Australia indigenous issues are not our greatest problem, nor are they the least funded or recognised. We should be able to walk and chew gum too. ie. continue to work on reducing indigenous disadvantage, but recognise that there are also larger issues with mental health problems,  drug and alcohol addiction issues and homelessness. There will undoubtedly be some indigenous Australians who also cross over into these other larger social issues and so by taking action on these problems we are also advancing the well being of many indigenous Australians at the same time.

 

As with most things, the problems are much more complex than the " black lives matter " extreme, radical,  leftist movement would have us believe..

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