seems mandatory vaccine is the go for the work place ....

[rogespeed]

The vaccine for covid , seems now being mandated for those currently employed

Seems like a violation of the existing conditions of employment for many , particularly whereby there is no mandate for  influenza vaccine requirement

Of course a harmless vaccine proven to mitigate against deadly covid-19 is desirable however some may object for whatever reason - and as are currently employed , one wonders the moral efficacy of coerced inoculation, as is clearly a workplace agreement item 

There is talk of dismissing currently employed workers for non-compliance

This to me would violate existing workplace agreements and a violation - fully paid leave would be the only  ethical way of excluding current employees ( unless all are retrenched then re-employed under covid safe clauses ) 

If there was no alternate to vaccination a strong case could be argued

But there are alternatives - periodic pcr tests,  daily check-in fast antigen tests , 1 minute on the treadmill 

The vaccines are released under emergency use meaning are experimental , so clearly fall under international law regarding strictly no forcing of experimental treatments

All that i am saying is that while inoculation is the most convenient , controllable and cost effective procedure , there should be an alternate process that meets workplace requirements

[4channel]

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@imastawka wrOte:

  Pariah

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Reply, himm. Hello imastawka? You're good at selecting pics.

Thanks.

[janeababe]

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@domino-710 wrote:

Just saying - I'm looking forward to meeting - Iver Mectin - bet he's double forcibly jabbed. 🤣

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FOUND HIM 😂

[janeababe]

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@4channel wrote:

Blah blah kiss, kiss, blah blah…….. then he wrote:

With my view of the current situation I've decided on a different route which for me I believe is best. …………… I will as I have started to do is eliminate certain toxic foods (considered safe by many) from my diet, incorporate more exercise and study up more on healing and revitalizing foods and plants. 

This is actually a topic that I CAN agree with you on, ….and if you are willing, a new thread on this topic would be a good start ….. if you’re  up for discussion with someone of LMAVBLLTTF! (Low morals and values but lives life to the fullest! 😂

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[padi*0409]

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@4channel wrote:

With my view of the current situation I've decided on a different route which for me I believe is best. I'm not going to be "vaccinated"! I will as I have started to do is eliminate certain toxic foods (considered safe by many) from my diet, incorporate more exercise and study up more on healing and revitalizing foods and plants. And to those who take the "vaccine", I respect their decision.

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4C, I am fully vaccinated and I've made that decision for a number of reasons,

Firstly, with being vaccinated my chances of getting a severe case of COVID are greatly reduced.

https://uihc.org/news/vaccinated-vs-unvaccinated-how-sick-can-you-get

Secondly, being fully vaccinated reduces my chance of passing the virus on to other people.

https://theconversation.com/your-unvaccinated-friend-is-roughly-20-times-more-likely-to-give-you-cov...

Whether you like it or not vaccinated people will, and do, have greater freedom to move around in the community. It's a fact that at the moment many governments worldwide do not recognise alternative treatments for COVID, so by you deciding not to get vaccinated you have put yourself in a situation where you are more likely to get COVID, and if you do get it you are more likely to suffer greater problems as a result.

With medical advances there may be effective alternative treatments in the future, if that happens then I may rethink having further vaccinations. Until then I will go with the best current treatments available, for the sake of my friends and family and myself.

[domino-710]

I would have thought them there toxic foods would have disappeared years ago - beggars belief. lol

Running off to check the pantry.

[countessalmirena]

Quick clinic break… 

This is for the amusement of readers and intended in the spirit of fun.

RECIPE FOR TOXIC PIGS IN BLANKETS

Take two pigs which have just finished slurping up something disgusting.

Have to hand a heap of very dirty blankets that have been used by plague victims.

Wrap up the pigs in those blankets.

Serve with a rat poison gravy.

But being serious for a moment… there are foods which form a very good basis for a healthy eating plan. Janebabe, you should start a thread about it! All of us can benefit from eating healthily and some good discussion about it might be interesting.

[janeababe]

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@domino-710 wrote:

I would have thought them there toxic foods would have disappeared years ago - beggars belief. lol

Running off to check the pantry.

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Believe it or not, but one of the most toxic ingredients in foods today is cane sugar! 
Now, you will find that in just about everything you eat. 😉

beggars belief hey! 😎

[domino-710]

I don't take sugar in coffee - don't eat sweets - more a savoury type.

Don't buy pre packaged anything - not much sugar here.

[janeababe]

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@countessalmirena wrote:

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But being serious for a moment… there are foods which form a very good basis for a healthy eating plan. Janebabe, you should start a thread about it! All of us can benefit from eating healthily and some good discussion about it might be interesting.

Thanks Countess, but I have put out the welcome mat for 4C to start the thread, to which I will eagerly contribute to.  
I will wait to see if he accepts or ignores…… it’s only fair. 😊

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[springyzone]

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@4channel wrote:

With my view of the current situation I've decided on a different route which for me I believe is best. I'm not going to be "vaccinated"! I will as I have started to do is eliminate certain toxic foods (considered safe by many) from my diet, incorporate more exercise and study up more on healing and revitalizing foods and plants. And to those who take the "vaccine", I respect their decision.

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And I think it is perfectly possible that that route may work for you. I see diet and exercise as lifestyle changes that affect your overall health, not just resistance to covid etc and I am sure you do too.

But I think, at the same time, it is important not to underestimate the seriousness of covid.

Up to now, I had never actually known anyone who had had covid, though just about everyone I know has had to be tested at some time or another.

My daughter though knows a whole family down with it. Now the parents had had their 1st vaccination but not the second, so their immune system would not have had the chanced to develop a high level of antibodies. The mother was quite sick for 2 weeks, the husband was extremely sick, one child was mildly sick and one showed little to no reaction. The wife said she is glad they were not totally unvaccinated as she wouldn't like to have a full on covid attack.

And now unfortunately we are awaiting news of my sister in law's husband. He was in a nursing home in Ringwood and covid has spread to quite a few staff and residents. He had low functioning kidneys and the level dropped further. When taken to hospital to have it checked out, they discovered he had covid. He is in palliatve care and not going to make it.

Now I know that had he not had pre existing conditions etc, covid may not have had this impact but the thing is, while covid is spreading in the community, these people are at great risk.

So we really need to aim to virtually eliminate it as much as possible, just as we have for other life threatening diseases. Vaccination is going to have the biggest impact on that.

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