unsporting?

[davidc4430]

US Open: Naomi Osaka beats Serena Williams in controversial women's singles final

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-09-09/us-open-naomi-osaka-beats-serena-williams-controversy/10218766

dear serena, when your getting beaten by a better player on the day best not to be a cow and start blaming others.

they wont overturn the umpires ruling and all you get is a reputation of being a bad sport.

[davidc4430]

ive just checked, it was Venus whos beads fell out.

but they both wore them.

[davidc4430]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ro-pPIwrJc

[not_for_sale2025]

Sorry, I had to cancel the post.

[chameleon54]

With modern communications, the Internet and international travel as common as a rail journey 100 years ago, the world is a MUCH smaller place. Add in migration and multiculturalism with many countries, including Australia becoming a melting pot of cultures and race and I think we will find within decades colour & race will be a thing of the past.

Maybe then indigenous Australians can move on and accept that the world has changed and they can never return to primitive hunter / gatherer days. With any luck a lot of racial and colour prejudice will also disappear as races are interbred and diluted into one big melting pot of global humans, without distinctive racial features.

The only problem this will present for Aborigines is they will be judged on who they are as a person and the crutch of racist identity that many rely on will be obsolete and no longer have a place in modern society.

[springyzone]

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@not_for_sale2025 wrote:

I find it distasteful that some people are still referring to others by colour.

What is it supposed to mean if an individual is a white, black or yellow person?

A big problem is that we don't know the agenda of the person who is labelling

others by colour. Do they have preconceived opinions of people who are a certain colour?

It's sometimes hard to tell if they are being racist, respectful of ones ethnicity, politically

correct, ignorant, or are just trouble makers.

The controversial Serena cartoon depicts Osaka as having fair hair and looking rather Western, 

while Serena has exaggerated ethnic features. It seems Osaka is therefore viewed by some to

be portrayed as superior because of her Western-like appearance, and this is racist. Why? Do we

think white westerners are better?

I think some people need to review their stereotypes of colour and question whether their

conclusions are generalised assumptions, or accurate. Whichever, I think judging somebody

based upon their colour is primitive, and I hope we start to change soon.

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I don't mind at all if people refer to another person's colour or nationality or race, as long as it is in a relevant context.

For example, in the Olympic Games or in tennis championships, of course we'd like to know what country the people are representing.

In a school, staff need to know nationalities & main language spoken of students so they can get extra funding if need be.

When there are crimes, we sometimes need to have descriptions of the appearance of whoever police are looking for.

I am also not against profiling eg when it comes to looking at crime/education/unemployment/certain illnesses & the statistics.

I recently went to a skin specialist & she told me that I am more at risk because I have very fair skin & family history so i need to go back every 3-6 months. Is that racist? Of course not.

It only becomes racist  (to me, anyway) if you're judging a person mainly about their colour or race when those things aren't relevant.

I think not for sale is right in that we don't know a person's agenda when labelling someone by colour (when it isn't relevant). Sometimes I think, in our politically correct society, some white people think they are showing how non racist they are by putting down all things white, which is just as racist as putting down all things black or whatever.

[chameleon54]

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@springyzone wrote:

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@not_for_sale2025 wrote:

I find it distasteful that some people are still referring to others by colour.

What is it supposed to mean if an individual is a white, black or yellow person?

A big problem is that we don't know the agenda of the person who is labelling

others by colour. Do they have preconceived opinions of people who are a certain colour?

It's sometimes hard to tell if they are being racist, respectful of ones ethnicity, politically

correct, ignorant, or are just trouble makers.

The controversial Serena cartoon depicts Osaka as having fair hair and looking rather Western, 

while Serena has exaggerated ethnic features. It seems Osaka is therefore viewed by some to

be portrayed as superior because of her Western-like appearance, and this is racist. Why? Do we

think white westerners are better?

I think some people need to review their stereotypes of colour and question whether their

conclusions are generalised assumptions, or accurate. Whichever, I think judging somebody

based upon their colour is primitive, and I hope we start to change soon.

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I don't mind at all if people refer to another person's colour or nationality or race, as long as it is in a relevant context.

For example, in the Olympic Games or in tennis championships, of course we'd like to know what country the people are representing.

In a school, staff need to know nationalities & main language spoken of students so they can get extra funding if need be.

When there are crimes, we sometimes need to have descriptions of the appearance of whoever police are looking for.

I am also not against profiling eg when it comes to looking at crime/education/unemployment/certain illnesses & the statistics.

I recently went to a skin specialist & she told me that I am more at risk because I have very fair skin & family history so i need to go back every 3-6 months. Is that racist? Of course not.

It only becomes racist  (to me, anyway) if you're judging a person mainly about their colour or race when those things aren't relevant.

I think not for sale is right in that we don't know a person's agenda when labelling someone by colour (when it isn't relevant). Sometimes I think, in our politically correct society, some white people think they are showing how non racist they are by putting down all things white, which is just as racist as putting down all things black or whatever.

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Theres only one thing worse than being white and thats being a white middle aged man. The PC crowd love to hate us, based on our skin colour, age and gender............ 

The absurdity of it all just shows how stupid and ignorant these people really are.

[kopenhagen5]

A lot of individuals misuse words and racist is one of them.

A racist is someone whom dislikes or shows prejudice to a particular race for no reason other than a dislike of that race.

We can talk about predispositions of a race for various reasons or habits of a particular race and that is not being racist.

If it is mostly black tennis players losing their temper in the game then we can talk about that fact without being racist however many couch experts call that racist when it is not.

An artist can depict a person outlining certain racial traits even if accentuated without being racist and to call that artist racist is simply wrong.

I loathe Chinese sellers for their lack of business acumen and tactics used to snare the dollar however I don't dislike the Chinese people as a whole.

I think the internet has made it easy for couch experts to voice opinions without being corrected or accept responsibility leading to groups with no training criticizing unnecessarily or incorrectly.

[davidc4430]

here is a story of inherent racism in the usa and just how difficult it is to get real racism changed.

U S Supreme Court - San Diego ID Law - Kolender v. Lawson

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCx8Rw-Eomg

this man is well educated, not a criminal in any way but still just because of his skin colour was subjected (and still is) to racisism almost daily.

Ms Williams and her one eyed followers have no idea what true racism is.

Edward C. Lawson on Oprah Winfrey Show, JANUARY 1987

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwN4L49LhDA

to have someone phone the tv station and spout the garbage to this man as this video shows is a great example of modern racism.

[*kazumi*]

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@not_for_sale2025 wrote:

I find it distasteful that some people are still referring to others by colour.

What is it supposed to mean if an individual is a white, black or yellow person?

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Agree totally; it should not matter any more than having blue or brown eyes.

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@not_for_sale2025 wrote:

The controversial Serena cartoon depicts Osaka as having fair hair and looking rather Western, 

while Serena has exaggerated ethnic features. It seems Osaka is therefore viewed by some to

be portrayed as superior because of her Western-like appearance, and this is racist. Why? Do we

think white westerners are better?

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Well she did have yellow pony tail that day.  Why depicting her with one makes her look western?  She was also portrayed as a slender insignificant little figure in the background, which was accurate depiction f the situation..

 

[*kazumi*]

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@chameleon54 wrote:

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@johcaschro

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Thats something I often wonder about too. If an " aboriginal " is 25% indiginous Australian and 75% European blood are they predominantly Aboriginal or European ? Obviously they are mixed race as we all are if you go back far enough in our ancestory, but shouldnt they be identifying with the 75% European blood, more than the 25% aboriginal ? Shouldnt they feel " the shame " that the rest of us are supposed to feel just because 230 years ago some white dudes from somewhere completely unrelated to my hereitage went exploring in a leaky wooden boat and ended up doing some " bad things "

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The problem with your assumption is that you do not seem to understand the people who were part aboriginal were treated as aboriginal by the community.  They did not have the same rights as their white ancestors, they were told they are are aboriginal.  Often it was the father who was white, and he did not always stick around.  They grew up closer to their aboriginal heritage than to their European one because the aboriginal culture was here, it belongs to Australia while the European culture was not really part of the lives of dirt poor kids growing up on fringes of Australian society.

White Australians who are few generations Aussies know of their whatever ancestory, but not many identify with being Scottish, or Irish, or English.  People who came here in since the WW2, especially from Europe and Asia might have bit stronger connection to the country of origin of their parents; mainly because they were not allowed to forget they are wogs (or whatever) and also as many would be regularly taken back for holidays to visit relatives.  Therefore their Italian or Greek culture was more part of their lives. 

Has anybody seen the "who do yu think you are" about Ray Martin?  He has some aboriginal ancestors.